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Re:75% decline over 27 years in total flying insect biomass ... by anigbrowl on Thursday October 19, 2017 @03:53AM (#15506165)
So start doing something. What have you got to lose if you're already doomed? Get yourself a copy of Deep Green resistance and join an aboveground affiliate group. It's easy to manufacture excuses not to do something because it looks impossible. So what? Better than saying you sat there and did nothing and watched it all disintegrate.
Re:75% decline over 27 years in total flying insect biomass ... by usrusr on Thursday October 19, 2017 @12:40PM (#15509400)
Cutting down our per head footprint is nice and laudable, but it's really just a minor tweak to the "O" in an exponential "Big Oh".

I suspect that crispinb deems something much more paradigmatic necessary than just a bit of reprorization in economic policies and everybody using less plastic bags. Some paradigm shifts are so big that it is very difficult to even think about them loudly without getting universally shunned.

What if, for example, you are convinced that for long term planetary survival (on a level that can support the human species), individualistic basic human rights will have to occasionally take a second place? That's what tyranny is made of, but that's also what desperate measures are made of. You won't win any popularity contests with that...

Re:75% decline over 27 years in total flying insect biomass ... by anigbrowl on Thursday October 19, 2017 @02:17PM (#15510239)
No disagreement on any of that. I don't want to scare people off with inflammatory suggestions (which is why I suggest aboveground activism rather than taking up pipeline sabotage, but I am absolutely for paradigmatic change despite the inevitability of violent opposition.
Re:75% decline over 27 years in total flying insect biomass ... by kiliantics on Friday October 20, 2017 @12:22PM (#15516995)
Deep green resistance advocate for blowing up power plants and other kinds of monkey wrenching. I don't think they're just trying to "cut down the per head footprint"...

> individualistic basic human rights will have to occasionally take a second place?

One could argue that this is the case right now. That the lack of protection of individual human rights is what got us into this mess. It wasn't individuals in communities that asked for their lands to be taken by a wealthy few or by corporations, to be used for generating profit through environmental destruction. Many people actively struggled against the acquisition and destruction of local ecological habitats. They were a majority opposing a small few powerful people or businesses. But the "individual rights" of those few were valued more and now the many must suffer the consequences...

Re:75% decline over 27 years in total flying insect biomass ... by crispinb on Thursday October 19, 2017 @04:21AM (#15506285)
It's not about me. [edit: by which I mean we were talking about the phenomenon of ecological collapse here. I said nothing about my personal response, and don't intend to]