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Re:75% decline over 27 years in total flying insect biomass ... by djsumdog on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @11:59PM (#15505379)
It seems like a lot of American logging has pushed to the Pacific Northwest, where it's very wet, doesn't get very hot/cold and new growth is very fast. I was talking to someone in Portland out in the middle of nowhere who said, "Almost everything you see is new growth; less than 60 years old. It grows that fast." The Singapore City gallery had a display where they talked about growing plants sustainability for paper.
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Re:75% decline over 27 years in total flying insect biomass ... by timthelion on Thursday October 19, 2017 @04:31AM (#15506337)
It may grow fast, bug the pacific north west once was covered with HUGE trees. Those trees may seem normal, but they are small in comparison to how things "normally" looked before Europeans. https://www.google.cz/search?q=spruce+giants+olympic&source=...
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Re:75% decline over 27 years in total flying insect biomass ... by Bartweiss on Thursday October 19, 2017 @10:45AM (#15508347)
Yep - PNW forestry is a fairly reasonable solution, at least in the sense that it's sustainable as-is. But it's far from a natural condition for that area.

The comparison between relatively preserved parks and National Forests (e.g. Willamette) and the rest of the states forests is truly jarring.

For that matter, the same pattern can be seen across the country. Much of Pennsylvania is densely forested, but the entire state has only a few thousand scattered acres of old-growth woods.

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Re:75% decline over 27 years in total flying insect biomass ... by mc32 on Thursday October 19, 2017 @12:28AM (#15505466)
Yup, Fat growing pulpwood is what they use. 20-40 year cycle. http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/1634930/is-the-larg...

Weyerhaeuser, etc. grow those fast growing pulpwood trees and harvest.

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Re:75% decline over 27 years in total flying insect biomass ... by asddddd on Friday October 20, 2017 @06:02AM (#15514640)
Sounds like they may have been referring to the Tillamook Burn. Also, I doubt it was you, but this reminds me of a conversion on Saddle Mtn that happened to be right while the Eagle Creek fire was starting.
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