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Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by sjg007 on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @05:05PM (#15503091)
I don't know why everyone thinks Google pays well... It was only a few years ago that they gave everyone a 10% raise across the board to address issues of underpayment. That was probably due to the Facebook threat. In addition, lest we forget, all of the big tech companies colluded to depress wages as well.
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by salarycommenter on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @06:01PM (#15503612)
This is consistent with my experience. Was making 175k in a lower cost of living area. Google wanted to pay 190k and require relocation to Mountain View. Had an offer in hand from another company for 240k. Google refused to negotiate.

What a waste of my time. Never again.

The two people I know who came to Google as juniors are forever typecast as such and are also not being paid well.

Not Google continued to treat me better after as well. If it's bad going in it's going to stay bad.

Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by sjg007 on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @10:02PM (#15504937)
Ok.. for what role? That's pretty high pay!
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by salarycommenter on Thursday October 19, 2017 @09:07AM (#15507506)
Individual contributor, Software Engineer.

At Google the recruiter put me in the SRE/SWE track which I was skeptical of and communicated to them. I also communicated about the compensation issues in advance saying if I got a bad offer it wasn't going to happen. Still wasted my time.

It's high for the industry if you consider the entire US or the world. The solution there is pick the right employer. The right ones are not that much harder to get into than the wrong ones especially if you play the interview game. You also need to not get caught location based comp schemes.

It's not high for a big corporation that is doing well. They just want you to think it's high so they don't have to pay and the small fry want you to think it's high because they can't afford it. These are all just line items in a budget.

Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by sjg007 on Thursday October 19, 2017 @09:10PM (#15512868)
So I read your comment history and it looks like you changed jobs quite a bit to get to the higher salary. Do you also focus on a particular niche or are you just a general senior engineer?
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by salarycommenter on Friday October 20, 2017 @12:57PM (#15517274)
I am not doing this as a generalist. I picked a specialization and within that specialization I picked a specific ecosystem and then ground out some seniority in that ecosystem.

Once I had that I could pick from anyone who is invested in the ecosystem.

I don't believe that has actually heavily impacted what I am paid in the sense of the credentialing being worth more to individual companies it has just made it easier to get through hiring filters and interview loops. That has made it possible to focus on companies that pay well.

Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by dogma1138 on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @05:20PM (#15503236)
I don't know I don't work in SV I work in London, here Google and Facebook are on the upper end of the spectrum above them most multinational banks and just below fintech and investment/exchanges houses.
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by hn_throwaway_99 on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @08:52PM (#15504599)
> I don't know why everyone thinks Google pays well

Because strong, senior engineers who have been at the company for a while (say at least 5-6 years) can get total comp that is in the upper six figures when everything is factored in. That's well higher than the vast majority of other employers.