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Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by benji-york on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @04:19PM (#15502582)
I think that holds only if your time is worth nothing. I don't want to go through weeks of interviews just to find out that my salary demands are $50K more than they're willing to pay.
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by nicolashahn on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @04:22PM (#15502604)
This is exactly why I made the comment. Recently went through 4 calls and a full day on site just to be met with an offer they wouldn't budge on that's 20% lower than what I currently make.
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by basseq on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @04:56PM (#15502992)
I've been through a similar situation: big mistake. They key is to validate you are in range on salary before committing to an interview process. Companies should have the same goal, but many will waste their own time—as you experienced.

This doesn't mean you should share current salary information, but does mean you should be prepared to state your salary expectations. This can be a good thing, as you can anchor high.

If you're in demand and are taking phone screens on a whim, you can always ask the recruiter to share their range. Odds are good they won't, and you can have some "fun" by expressing concern that they don't know what they're hiring for.

Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by wvenable on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @04:27PM (#15502682)
The time everyone puts into it is part of the negotiating process. A company will budge if it's worth it for them -- and your job is to convince them it's worth it.

If the first thing out of your mouth is salary and they balk at that then you never even get to the negotiating phase.

A few failures, like you had, is simply part of the process. I don't think it's reasonable to expect to be successful a job hunting every time you go into the interview process. The time you put in is part of that process.

Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by ciro_langone on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @06:51PM (#15503974)
"Saving time" during the interview process doesn't make sense if you're going to spend the next X years being UNDERpaid at your job.

If we assume that your time has some amount of value, you are always better off withholding your desired salary.

If you want to see whether or not they're going to be a potential employer, ask them for a ballpark of what they're willing to pay. But there is no reason for telling them free information.

Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by Retric on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @04:24PM (#15502643)
They need to convince you it's worth going through that much effort. It's also completely reasonable to ask what a position pays.
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by dragonwriter on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @05:06PM (#15503101)
This law requires them to provide salary ranges on demand to applicants, which addresses that without you giving them any info.
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by s73ver_ on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @06:26PM (#15503808)
That's why part of this law states that the employer has to provide the salary range upon request.