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Re:Problems with MacBook butterfly switch keyboards by mvdwoord on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @12:50PM (#15500689)
The touchbar is worse imo. The problem is the lack of tactile feedback, plus unwanted "keypresses" when your fingers wander over it.

If they would have just placed the touchbar above the old row of ESC and Function keys, it could have been good. Now it is just shit.

Re:Problems with MacBook butterfly switch keyboards by vosper on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @01:15PM (#15500924)
It's a mystery to me why they didn't do this, at least on the 15" Macbook. Instead they made the already-plenty-big-enough touchpad even larger. A secondary screen / input control above the full keyboard would be awesome. It'd be a great way to get notifications (tests passed, build finished, sports scores, whatever...) or have ad-hoc controls.
Re:Problems with MacBook butterfly switch keyboards by cweiss on Thursday October 19, 2017 @12:17PM (#15509206)
RE: Lack of haptic feedback - There's an app for that - https://www.haptictouchbar.com/ It's not great (that the feedback is in the touchpad and not the touchbar is disconcerting), but it's better than no feedback.