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Re:Why You Can Focus in a Coffee Shop but Not in Your Open O... by Ajedi32 on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @11:12AM (#15499749)
For me it's not about the noise, it's about whether or not the noise is in fact, just noise, or if it's interesting enough to draw my attention.

Random conversation in a coffee shop or cafeteria? No problem. People discussing the latest episode of my favorite TV show? Distracting.

Instrumental music, or songs I've heard a million times before? Just noise. A new song with interesting lyrics, or a personal favorite I've been really into lately? Distracting.

Re:Why You Can Focus in a Coffee Shop but Not in Your Open O... by imglorp on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @11:22AM (#15499849)
Coworkers discussing an issue I'm working on? Super distracting.
Re:Why You Can Focus in a Coffee Shop but Not in Your Open O... by wccrawford on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @11:27AM (#15499906)
Discussing anything, for me. I never know if it's something I should be listening to or not. It might become important.

Now, since my solution is to shut my door, you'd think I could just say, "Yup, nothing matters" and ignore it. But it just doesn't work that way.

Re:Why You Can Focus in a Coffee Shop but Not in Your Open O... by abainbridge on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @03:17PM (#15502073)
In the open office environment I used to work in I got quite good at ignoring coworkers discussions about stuff they were working on. But as they crammed more and more people into the building, the probability of being within earshot of multiple discussions at once went up. I could sit in my chair getting angry when there was only two. When it got to three concurrent discussions I found I had to leave the vicinity. Some people could ignore it all. Impressive.
Re:Why You Can Focus in a Coffee Shop but Not in Your Open O... by pavel_lishin on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @12:11PM (#15500349)
Ideally, if it's something important to you, your coworkers should get your attention, or at least communicate the results of their discussion to you.

But I realize that this is supposing two idealized coworkers in a perfect vacuum.

Re:Why You Can Focus in a Coffee Shop but Not in Your Open O... by tclancy on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @12:01PM (#15500264)
Right, it's whether or not I can put the conversation into a context. If not, it's just noise. If I can organize it or think about how accurate the information is, you have my un-un-divided attention.
Re:Why You Can Focus in a Coffee Shop but Not in Your Open O... by antisthenes on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @12:13PM (#15500374)
Someone mentions your name in passing? Good-bye productivity.
Re:Why You Can Focus in a Coffee Shop but Not in Your Open O... by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @11:29AM (#15499939)
Yes, but I'd argue that would be an argument in favor of open offices - overhearing things that are relevant to you and/or you have knowledge of allows you to jump into the conversation and participate.
Re:Why You Can Focus in a Coffee Shop but Not in Your Open O... by jacalata on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @11:52AM (#15500178)
Yes, it does. God forbid I wanted to work on something and not keep listening to the five nearest conversations in case they are relevant to me, though. Why would I ever need to focus on anything at work?
Re:Why You Can Focus in a Coffee Shop but Not in Your Open O... by dkersten on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @12:17PM (#15500413)
> keep listening to the five nearest conversations in case they are relevant to me

What if the relevant conversation is the 6th nearest? Uh Oh!

My point is that open office doesn't really help because you can only really pay attention to the people relatively close to you and then only X conversations at a time anyway (for me, X is usually 1). Any other conversations happening anywhere else, I will miss.

Better would be a "remote work friendly" culture where discussions happen in slack or somewhere async like that. You can then check it when you're not trying to focus and you won't miss things simply because of proximity. Best of all, you don't get distracted from your actual work when you try to focus.

> Why would I ever need to focus on anything at work?

Exactly... better not do any work so you can pay full attention to what everybody else is doing, in case something is relevant to what you're not doing...

Re:Why You Can Focus in a Coffee Shop but Not in Your Open O... by patpending on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @03:43PM (#15502267)
I'm in total agreement. I'd add that for me the worst kind of distraction is having a co-worker talking about something interesting on the phone. As focused as I try to be, I find my brain defies me and tries to fill in the half of the conversation that I can't hear.

Also, I'm a native English speaker. I speak very little Spanish, but when my co-workers converse in Spanish my brain gets completely sidetracked trying to understand what they're saying. It's even worse with they're speaking Spanish on the phone.

It's as if when I can only hear or understand part of the conversation my undisciplined brain sucks up loads of CPU cycles trying to fill in the gaps. So I picked up a pair of sound cancelling headphones and block everything out with white-noise or music. But now my ears sweat...

Re:Why You Can Focus in a Coffee Shop but Not in Your Open O... by ctdonath on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @01:16PM (#15500934)
Instrumental music, or songs I've heard a million times before? Just noise.

That's why I listen to techno/trance music. High energy, but intended as pure background, always changing but never distractingly so. Enhances an experience/activity, but never demands your attention; not something you can sit down and listen to for its own sake.

Re:Why You Can Focus in a Coffee Shop but Not in Your Open O... by thatcat on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @03:53PM (#15502360)
>not something you can sit down and listen to for its own sake

I used to use techno for strictly background/energy, but have come to enjoy some artists independently.

Mostly in the IDM subgenre; Aphex Twin, Boards of Canada, Koyxen, and Square Pusher have a solid mix of enjoyable music that doesn't distract.

Re:Why You Can Focus in a Coffee Shop but Not in Your Open O... by ship_it on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @01:53PM (#15501291)
I've heard this from many developers. I love technowave for that reason.