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Re:Just own the damn robots by paulpauper on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @05:20PM (#15495080)
Netflix has a ~200 PE ratio, there is no means for it to ever justify its existing valuation (400 million global subscribers? no chance), much less a far higher one. Their present business model has never proven the ability to produce good margins, content has perpetually sapped their earnings potential and is likely to continue to do so.

Facebook and Google will stagnate and grow into their valuations. Google particularly is trading far beyond where it should versus its now modest growth rate. ~37 times earnings, $700 billion market cap, for 10%-15% annual growth over the next five years? No thanks. In the not very distant future, Google will pull a Microsoft and begin paying out a dividend, after this latest stock market bubble ends and their stock returns drift to mediocrity.

People said that three, five, ten years ago. What is happening is that the market for mobile and desktop ads and e-commerce is growing, combined with increased market share for these three companies, creating a double tailwind. I'm certain Google, Amazon and Facebook will not suffer the fates of Exxon, GE, PetroChina, Royal Dutch Shell, Citigroup, AT&T, Gazprom, BP, Toyota, Bank of America, China Mobile, HSBC, ICBC, and Walmart. Part of the reason Amazon, Google, and Facebook will be permanently successful and are so resilient is because they have market dominance, impassable moats, ubiquity, and are mostly immune to global macro conditions, whereas commodity and banking companies are much more vulnerable to macro conditions. It's much easier to create a steel, drilling, or mining company (look at all the overnight fracking companies that went bust in 2015-2016) than it is to, say, get 1/6 of the world population on your social network (Facebook), every website and phone displaying your ads (Google), or every consumer buying from your store (Amazon) (and also the cloud hosting services). http://greyenlightenment.com/will-the-silicon-valley-tech-fo...

But also, some of those companies you listed pay huge dividends, so when you factor those into the returns, it's not stagnant.

Re:Just own the damn robots by nradov on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @09:06PM (#15496205)
“Stock prices have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau” - Yale economist Irving Fisher, 1929
Re:Just own the damn robots by kmicklas on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @06:40PM (#15495575)
> will be permanently successful

Surely you don't mean actually permanent. So what time scale do you think they will last?

Re:Just own the damn robots by tibbetts on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @08:06PM (#15495984)
One reasonable perspective is they will be successful until there is a market correction so large it can't be hedged against. World War Three, global warming societal collapse, popular revolution, or massive antitrust activity.

As they say, "in the long run we are all dead."

Re:Just own the damn robots by hudibras on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @03:55AM (#15497579)
GE has been in business for 125 years and is still going strong. Not unreasonable to expect the same for at least some tech companies.
Re:Just own the damn robots by fspeech on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @01:29AM (#15497077)
I don't think there's such a thing as impassable moat other than a monopoly. And monopolies eventually get busted by governments.