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Re:New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior by TeMPOraL on Monday October 16, 2017 @01:55AM (#15481147)
> For blind people, these often-derided services are the difference between a full life where we can participate

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand, a big difference between old "Taxi mafia" and Uber is that the former will service people with disabilities, because they're forced to do so even if it's unprofitable by the same regulations that grant them semi-monopoly, while Uber will happily ignore this segment in its search for market efficiency.

Re:New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior by jaredklewis on Monday October 16, 2017 @07:30AM (#15482445)
Well, I’m pretty sure it doesn’t cost uber any more or less to serve blind people, perhaps aside from some initial investment in getting their app to work with VoiceOver (appears to work fine).

Obviously it costs uber far more to serve people in wheelchairs. So yes, making life better for parapalegics might make life worse (or at least more expensive) for blind people.

And here we have the double edge of regulation. It is not a very precise tool. Want a benefit for some group, but don’t want to have to, you know, actually pay for it? Easy! Just add a new regulation that makes all business owners pay for it! Voila, taxi regulations.

Imagine instead if the government simply gave disabled a stipend to help fund their transportation costs. A diverse market would emerge. Some businesses, eager to tap into the fountain of government stipends, would charge higher prices and offer wheelchair friendly vehicles. Other businesses would offer cheaper services, which would benefit groups like the blind. And not just the blind but single mothers, veterans, and even just regular ol’ people that want to go somewhere.

Regulations make taxis more expensive for everyone, including groups that deserve a break like the blind or the poor.

Stipends paid for by tax raises can be targeted at specific groups, like the very rich.

I have a lot of sympathy for the disabled and support policies that benefit them. But the existing regime of Taxi regulations of are extremely poorly thought out and inefficient.

Re:New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior by thecrazyone on Monday October 16, 2017 @12:56PM (#15484722)
I don't get this "tax the rich" cop out for every thing that needs funding. It's not your money to take it.

Your sympathies for the physically challenged, however, are in the right place and I share them

PS: I'm not rich by any definition, just so you know that I'm not just advocating for my own "group"

Re:New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior by AnthonyMouse on Monday October 16, 2017 @11:13AM (#15483732)
> Imagine instead if the government simply gave disabled a stipend to help fund their transportation costs. A diverse market would emerge. Some businesses, eager to tap into the fountain of government stipends, would charge higher prices and offer wheelchair friendly vehicles.

Even better would be to make it cash instead of a stipend. Then you don't need a bureaucracy just to verify that the money is being spent on a particular thing, and if it turns out that the recipients prefer to use the money for something else instead, that only increases efficiency. People can choose the more efficient alternative between paying a premium for wheelchair-accessible transport or just having products delivered via UPS.

Or simplify things even further and just have a universal basic income to replace this sort of thing as well as the other thousands of other individual subsidies that end up producing mountains of unnecessary paperwork when we could just give everyone one unconditionally.

Re:New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior by taysic on Monday October 16, 2017 @03:00AM (#15481379)
From what I understand Uber is much more affordable than cabs on average which can make a big difference to people. In the city I live near, there used to be such a shortage of cabs, waiting for an hour as they drove by you or after you called was not uncommon.
Re:New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior by TeMPOraL on Monday October 16, 2017 @05:15AM (#15481849)
True. It should definitely work this way in dense areas with lots of potential customer base. And taxis definitely seem to be in sad state in many places around the world.

What I meant is that a regular taxi is obliged to serve a customer even in a more remote area of the city, while Uber can just ignore it. Similarly, taxi networks usually are obliged to have cars adapted to people with disabilities, which again increases their costs, but ensures there is service available for people with special need.

Re:New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior by upvotinglurker on Monday October 16, 2017 @07:39AM (#15482494)
Based on all the Uber- and taxi-related threads I've read on HN before, in many jurisdictions, taxis are legally "obliged" to accept credit/debit cards, pick up non-white customers (common U.S. anti-discrimination laws), etc., yet they manage to find ways to consistently fail to do so without meaningful consequences. Is there any evidence that they actually fulfill their obligation to serve customers with disabilities?
Re:New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior by thecrazyone on Monday October 16, 2017 @01:00PM (#15484752)
Good point. However, I don't think there is any data collected in this regard (how many actually fulfill their obligation to serve customers with disabilities). At best we can, perhaps, get anecdotes from people who needed such a service and actually got it or didn't get it.