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Re:New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior by colechristensen on Sunday October 15, 2017 @03:45PM (#15478915)
For me, over the last 80,000 miles, about 85% of the operating costs were gas.

I did think about that, and I have. I briefly considered getting rid of my car to eliminate the cost of insurance and renting a parking space while working from home. It was at best break even to match my then current behavior with public transit and taxi-equivalents.

It seems about 40% of Caltrain is not covered by fares.

It's hard to find numbers, but it seems like as well something in the neighborhood of half of road costs are covered by gas taxes.

I'm trying to make the point that these costs aren't hidden and don't come from magic places, they seem to be real and Caltrain seems to be very inefficient compared to what one would expect.

One would expect a train capable of carrying hundreds of people would be orders of magnitude less expensive instead of being more or less at parity with one car per person.

Re:New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior by goialoq on Monday October 16, 2017 @12:16AM (#15480779)
The most expensive Caltrain pass is <$5K/yr. A small car that drives anywhere near that distance will cost >$5K/yr total cost of ownership, especially is parking is unsubsidized.

http://www.caltrain.com/Fares/farechart.html

https://www.edmunds.com/toyota/corolla/2017/st-401668011/cos...

Re:New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior by DrScump on Monday October 16, 2017 @03:45AM (#15481522)

  A small car that drives anywhere near that distance will cost >$5K/yr
A brand-new, name brand small car
Re:New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior by upvotinglurker on Monday October 16, 2017 @08:03AM (#15482586)
What cars are not name brand? (Self-built?)
Re:New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior by DrScump on Monday October 16, 2017 @07:27PM (#15487489)
People of modest means will more typically be driving used cars.
Re:New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior by upvotinglurker on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @07:02AM (#15489994)
Yes, but the Toyota I bought used was still a Toyota.
Re:New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior by sliverstorm on Monday October 16, 2017 @11:59AM (#15484168)
It sounds like maybe you included this in your calcs, but I forgot to add depreciation as another cost.

And the most magicky auto costs are the ones hidden a few layers deep, in our city design & abundance of parking for example.