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Re:There's No Fire Alarm for Artificial General Intelligence by JabavuAdams on Saturday October 14, 2017 @11:49AM (#15472661)
> I don't think 30 years will see a machine that can make dinner by gathering ingredients from a supermarket, driving home, and preparing the meal.

Really? Why not? Once or twice, if we cherry-pick its performance, or reliably?

This is really surprising to me.

Re:There's No Fire Alarm for Artificial General Intelligence by deong on Saturday October 14, 2017 @02:50PM (#15473577)
I mean reliably, the same way a human does. I can make a lasagne tonight, or lobster risotto, or whatever. I can decide on a thing, buy ingredients, chop things, get that lobster out of the shells, find the right recipe, substitute according to taste, and loads of other things that are somewhat related to making food. I can wash the pan I need, improvise a stove lighter if the igniter fails, etc.

We might be able to make machines to do each of those tasks, but that's not the answer. I might do 100,000 things in an average week. Clearly we aren't going to build 100,000 bespoke CNNs and LSTMs. To worry about superhuman AI, we probably have to figure out how to make one or a few machines that aren't gloried deep fryers.

Re:There's No Fire Alarm for Artificial General Intelligence by JabavuAdams on Saturday October 14, 2017 @03:35PM (#15473789)
> Clearly we aren't going to build 100,000 bespoke CNNs and LSTMs.

I get what you mean, but I don't think we should assume this.

Re:There's No Fire Alarm for Artificial General Intelligence by stretchwithme on Saturday October 14, 2017 @12:39PM (#15472944)
It won't be a single machine. It will be multiple systems. And it's not that far away. Probably only 15 years.

And it will be a great boon. Quality of meals will go up and costs will go down. The restaurant market will shrink but not completely disappear.

But McDonald's will certainly die, as there'll be no need to sacrifice quality and nutrition to get speed and convenience. In fact, a table at McDonald's will be an inconvenient booth.

Re:There's No Fire Alarm for Artificial General Intelligence by timthelion on Saturday October 14, 2017 @02:01PM (#15473333)
McDonalds is that machine. All you need is to make the trucks that distribute the ingredients self driving and you have it.
Re:There's No Fire Alarm for Artificial General Intelligence by stretchwithme on Saturday October 14, 2017 @07:13PM (#15474852)
It's not the machine I was describing. It's not a machine but a group of people. And it's certainly not elevating quality or nutrition. It doesn't produce food I'd want to serve to my nieces on a regular basis or that I'd want them know about.