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Re:An anarchist takes on Big Pharma by teaching patients to ... by alexanderstears on Saturday October 14, 2017 @02:02AM (#15471006)
Go try to wrestle a caveman for his fur pelt and see if he considers it to be a protected object.

Force protects the object, sometimes the government exerts the force sometimes not.

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Re:An anarchist takes on Big Pharma by teaching patients to ... by tormeh on Saturday October 14, 2017 @12:48PM (#15472973)
>Go try to wrestle a caveman for his fur pelt and see if he considers it to be a protected object.

But if I show up with a better club then all his stuff is now mine. A third party enforcing certain resource allocations with overwhelming force is different to everyone defending their own stuff.

Government is the difference between property rights and might-makes-right.

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Re:An anarchist takes on Big Pharma by teaching patients to ... by hacking_again on Saturday October 14, 2017 @01:42PM (#15473241)
In theory yes, if you have an impartial third-party monopoly, but in practice it's still might-makes-right, where might = money, lawyers, political connections, ethnicity, etc. It's probably still better, but it's less transparently obvious what's going than with my club vs. yours.
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Re:An anarchist takes on Big Pharma by teaching patients to ... by alexanderstears on Sunday October 15, 2017 @12:09PM (#15477727)
But if I show up with a better club then all his stuff is now mine.

Bingo. Ownership exists without government - ownership exists to the extent others respect the claim.

Government is the difference between property rights and might-makes-right.

Governments are legitimate because of their might. Why do you think the basic social contract between authorities and the governed is "obedience for protection"?

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Re:An anarchist takes on Big Pharma by teaching patients to ... by hacking_again on Saturday October 14, 2017 @03:30AM (#15471179)
Eh, I don't disagree, I was just trying to distinguish between property existing and objects existing. But maybe force defines existence all the way down.
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