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Re:Basic Survival Methods in R by antipaul on Friday October 13, 2017 @10:56PM (#15470433)
Depends what you are familiar with. Once you learn tidyverse in R, you won’t want to go back to SAS.

But initially, if you have say 20 years of SAS, then yea, SAS will be easier for you and it may or may not be worth switching to R.

Re:Basic Survival Methods in R by devereaux on Friday October 13, 2017 @11:58PM (#15470656)
I have not that much experience with SAS. I first played with it for 6 months several years ago, then again for 3 months a few years ago in very specific jobs (what fun it is to be cleaning data with a pure SAS proc instead of using perl - ouch!)

I have spent much more time with R, but this class is taught with SAS and it objectively shows some advantages that SAS still has today - in the case I was talking about, if you don't want just a log rank test but something more exotic without writing any code, SAS just has it.

Considering how SAS refuses to die, it is interesting to learn with it, before finding a way to do the same in R, as I am likely to encounter some SAS code again!

But in a few weeks, I plan to recode all the examples I see in pure R.

Re:Basic Survival Methods in R by arkades on Saturday October 14, 2017 @08:32AM (#15471871)
Ugh, I hate SAS. So much of your time spent on SAS is spent on exactly that: the idiosyncracies of SAS (why is input labeled "cards", professor? Oh, because folks have been working on SAS in one way or another since data was still using punch cards...).

R does take more work, but at least it's with generalizable skills. I detest spending my time learning something that can only be used in its narrow niche.

Re:Basic Survival Methods in R by devereaux on Saturday October 14, 2017 @10:05AM (#15472217)
Alternatively, narrow niches offer many other possibilities for selling skills :-)
Re:Basic Survival Methods in R by arkades on Saturday October 14, 2017 @12:16PM (#15472800)
Fair, but I think "statistician with a strong general programming bsckground" is actually less common than "statistician with a strong SAS background." Its narrow, but common in that niche.
Re:Basic Survival Methods in R by devereaux on Sunday October 15, 2017 @08:03PM (#15480058)
Indeed!

BTW I just submitted a link to show HN how I include SAS code inside Rstudio. It is a bit ugly but it does the job. If you still need to do some SAS it could be helpful to you.