Re:Dietary Carbohydrates Impair Healthspan and Promote Morta...
by rhinoceraptor on Friday October 13, 2017 @09:23AM
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There’s no such thing as necessary carbohydrates. The body is capable of producing all the glucose it needs.
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Re:Dietary Carbohydrates Impair Healthspan and Promote Morta...
by fasteo on Friday October 13, 2017 @11:13AM
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True, but think about non-necessary vs beneficial vs optimal.
"Gluconeogenesis is extremely expensive" [1]
Re:Dietary Carbohydrates Impair Healthspan and Promote Morta...
by dualogy on Sunday October 15, 2017 @09:01AM
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The key to cheap and non-harmful GNG is to have copious amounts of fats circulating, at a keto-typical low weight that means copious intakes of fats too. GNG ideally shouldn't/wouldn't happen from proteins (unless intake is very high) but from other metabolic byproducts and the glycerol backbones of triglycerides. Then this process typically accompanies ketosis in which ketones (endogenously produced-from-fat-burning types-of-carbohydrate but not from GNG) power most (not all) glucose-but-not-fat-burning-capable cells. Fat-adapted where possible, ketone-adapted elsewhere, and lots of byproducts that ordinarily would be "useless and to be excreted" (not just glycerol but also lactate, pyruvate etc) can now feed into (non-protein) GNG without the complications and expenses and downsides of protein-to-glucose GNG.