Universal Basic Income and the threat of tyranny

Re:Universal Basic Income and the threat of tyranny by kinos on Tuesday October 10, 2017 @02:18PM (#15444055)

Did you know that if you make too much income you will lose your welfare? You can lose disability just for holding onto $2000 for someone. There are a lot of ways to lose welfare, and a lot of disincentives to get off of it. Being on welfare also gives you a large amount of disincentives towards finding a job.

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Re:Universal Basic Income and the threat of tyranny by DonaldFisk on Tuesday October 10, 2017 @02:27PM (#15444142)

Or that if you don't have any paid work you still might not get welfare?

Edit: added "still"

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Re:Universal Basic Income and the threat of tyranny by kinos on Tuesday October 10, 2017 @02:37PM (#15444213)

Thats a new one for me. I know you have to prove you're constantly looking for work to continue getting unemployment. I didn't know that some welfare requires having a job. Do you have more information about that?

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Re:Universal Basic Income and the threat of tyranny by DonaldFisk on Tuesday October 10, 2017 @03:10PM (#15444498)

I wasn't sufficiently clear. In the UK, many people don't get any benefit, even though they're out of work (or working for free), because they're unfamiliar with the rules, which are based on the fiction that paid work is easy to find.

Some welfare (aka workfare) does indeed require the unemployed person taking a full-time job, for which they are paid their jobseeker's allowance and no more, and if they refuse they get nothing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workfare_in_the_United_Kingdom

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