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Re:Librem 5 Phone Funded by shmerl on Monday October 09, 2017 @05:40PM (#15437715)
Success in this case means having a choice to buy such device and run a free OS on it.
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Re:Librem 5 Phone Funded by ocdtrekkie on Monday October 09, 2017 @06:52PM (#15438094)
"The choice to buy such device" seems to be the hard part for every previous attempt at an open source OS. Almost all of them have been "buy a Nexus/OnePlus/etc. and flash it yourself" or have had limited models that are nearly impossible to get a hold of.

In my case, the problem actually doubles, because I'm on Verizon. Verizon IS required to support any compatible device, but few niche developers are willing to submit their devices for certification. :/ I suspect there would be a significant value if someone could get a free software-based module submitted to https://opendevelopment.verizonwireless.com/design-and-build...

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Re:Librem 5 Phone Funded by shmerl on Monday October 09, 2017 @07:17PM (#15438190)
> "The choice to buy such device" seems to be the hard part for every previous attempt

Yes, it is very hard, and I hope they'll succeed this time.

> In my case, the problem actually doubles, because I'm on Verizon.

Can you ditch Verizon for T-Mobile? They are more flexible.

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Re:Librem 5 Phone Funded by ocdtrekkie on Monday October 09, 2017 @08:15PM (#15438404)
T-Mobile is extremely adept at misleading advertising and it has left a very bad taste in my mouth. Beyond that, I have Verizon and AT&T towers at work, so it would be silly to not get one of them.
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Re:Librem 5 Phone Funded by shmerl on Monday October 09, 2017 @08:25PM (#15438447)
I think out of these three, T-Mobile is the best. Your own example demonstrates it. Anyway, it was always the only sensible option for users of N900, N9 and so on.
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Re:Librem 5 Phone Funded by ocdtrekkie on Monday October 09, 2017 @09:04PM (#15438590)
On the contrary, my example, that I have AT&T and Verizon towers at work, is that T-Mobile has less coverage.

They also started the entire anti-net neutral trend with throttling video, zero rating content from specific providers, etc. Which the others carriers were unfortunately all too willing to copy.

It is hard to see from either a technical or ethical standpoint how T-Mobile is better.

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Re:Librem 5 Phone Funded by shmerl on Monday October 09, 2017 @09:20PM (#15438628)
Verizon and AT&T were anti-net neutrality long before T-Mobile were. I'm not defending what they are doing wrong. Just pointing out, that you if you want to have your own unlocked device, they are the best option.
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