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Re:Ask HN: How common is a counteroffer for developers who g... by everdev on Saturday October 07, 2017 @06:14PM (#15425982)
If you give notice, you're saying "I'm at the end of my rope, I'm leaving".

If you go to management and say "I've been struggling with X, Y and Z can you help me?" then you're signaling that you trust the company to help you, wether that's workload, salary, etc.

Management that counter offer after giving notice is 9/10 trying to keep you around long enough to find a better replacement knowing that you'll leave again in the near future, or they'll boot you when the replacement is up to speed.

Re:Ask HN: How common is a counteroffer for developers who g... by noitsnot on Saturday October 07, 2017 @06:19PM (#15426005)
Most of the time they're trying to keep you around long enough not to have to deal with hiring someone else anyway.
Re:Ask HN: How common is a counteroffer for developers who g... by kpxxx3 on Sunday October 08, 2017 @03:24AM (#15427319)
> If you give notice, you're saying "I'm at the end of my rope, I'm leaving".

No not usually. I don’t get why a group (techies) that fancies themselves so rational can’t understand simple economics. Giving notice means I have leverage with a better offer no more less. The reason for that may be hard for the current employer to fix or not. Often it is not hard for them to fix, especially in larger organizations. And often coming with a better offer in hand is the only way to signal that. We can wank about ideal managers and all that but that is not how the world works.