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Re:The Rise of the Rich Renter by sidlls on Saturday October 07, 2017 @05:06PM (#15425704)
I'd take 10 houses for $200k in the Midwest over one $2m house in the Bay Area. Appreciation is lower, but rents (as a percentage of cost) are much, much better. The shortfall in appreciation can easily be made up for in better rent yield.
Re:The Rise of the Rich Renter by inuhj on Saturday October 07, 2017 @05:30PM (#15425812)
Less desirable areas always have higher cap rates. Most investors are NOT looking to make money on the cap rate though. If you're seriously investing in real estate you're looking into development projects, re-zoning, etc. You're buying because you know the local government has a 10 year plan to revitalize that part of the city or some other strategic bet.
Re:The Rise of the Rich Renter by sidlls on Saturday October 07, 2017 @06:19PM (#15426010)
True, but I think the context here is people buying one (or a very small number) of single family homes as an "investment."

My point is that to "invest" that way in a high cost area is not the smartest move. It's better to buy conservative dividend paying stocks. But if one must "invest" in property it's better to buy 10 for $200k than 1 for $1M. I also didn't mention risk mitigation: the risk of loss on the former is lower.

Re:The Rise of the Rich Renter by prostoalex on Tuesday October 10, 2017 @12:50AM (#15439435)
> If you're seriously investing in real estate you're looking into development projects, re-zoning, etc.

I don't think that's strictly accurate, there's something for every budget in real estate investment world, from buying a small condo to rent out to sovereign-fund-level buildouts like Las Vegas CityCenter or LA Metropolis.

It's like saying that someone interested in stock investing would not be buying a few shares here and there, but instead go the Warren Buffett way and acquire entire companies to get synergies across industries.

There are income-oriented investors and multifamily income funds who buy primarily for cap rates.

Re:The Rise of the Rich Renter by jeffdavis on Saturday October 07, 2017 @05:17PM (#15425755)
Consider maintenance costs, vacancies, and management fees. Those can take a huge bite out of your rental income and easily drive you into the red.
Re:The Rise of the Rich Renter by walshemj on Saturday October 07, 2017 @05:22PM (#15425777)
not if you run it as a property company and not directly own them
Re:The Rise of the Rich Renter by jeffdavis on Saturday October 07, 2017 @05:36PM (#15425838)
Can you please explain?
Re:The Rise of the Rich Renter by walshemj on Saturday October 07, 2017 @08:35PM (#15426425)
You set up a company who owns the property's you can then claim expenses back against tax - you then pay your self a dividend.

As opposed to you owning the houses directly

Re:The Rise of the Rich Renter by sanswork on Saturday October 07, 2017 @05:09PM (#15425711)
How does it look once you account for closing costs on 10 houses, maintenance and management of 10 rental properties, etc?