The first link has no relevance to the discussion, and the second I had indeed read before posting. Need I point out that C++ IS NOT C. Being a good C++ programmer does not make you a good C programmer, and vis versa. I would argue, in fact, that many of the capabilities that a knowledgable, current C++ coder depends on would make them more liable to encounter issues coding in C, std::auto_ptr being chief among them.