News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the p... by derefr on Thursday October 05, 2017 @03:56PM (#15412118)
I've always thought of Apple as one of those black holes that absorbs devs: people land there, and then—if they can hack the culture—tend to stay for their careers.

Is this not true any more? Where does ex-Apple dev talent tend to go? (Microsoft? Indie app development?)

Re:If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the p... by threeseed on Thursday October 05, 2017 @07:33PM (#15413378)
I worked at Apple as a developer. I just went to another company just like everyone else does.

I know lots of people who have spent their entire careers there because the work is challenging and interesting. I also know teams that handle anonymous backend infrastructure e.g. AppleID or ADC where there was higher turnover.

No different to any other company.

Re:If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the p... by BlindMidget on Thursday October 05, 2017 @04:10PM (#15412220)
Honestly all the great apple devs from the early 2ks have either moved into consulting or entrepreneurial activity or, more likely and worryingly, they've been promoted into management roles at apple where they're managing a team of engineers not quite as good as they were. You see this everywhere, at every company. That's my guess.
Re:If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the p... by girvo on Thursday October 05, 2017 @11:36PM (#15414243)
Are you seriously arguing that engineers were better “back in the day” and engineers now are not as good? Surely I must be misunderstanding you.
Re:If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the p... by not_kurt_godel on Friday October 06, 2017 @02:52AM (#15414907)
The talent pool of engineers capable of propelling a company technologically forward the way Apple was "back in the day" is by definition very shallow. He's not saying engineers are better, it's just a selection bias.
Re:If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the p... by dilap on Thursday October 05, 2017 @04:47PM (#15412467)
Dunno, but it would make sense. Huge apple success post iPhone + exploding tech scene provide a ton of opportunity/temptation to leave.

Anecdotally, Chris Lattner is a high-profile recent departure. :-)