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Re:Google admits citing 4chan to spread fake Vegas shooter news by kartan on Thursday October 05, 2017 @02:33PM (#15411473)
> that's your responsibility as a reader

I live in Sweden. How do I fact check what happens in a neighborhood in the USA? How do I know that a result of a clinical test is reliable?

Do I check it on another on-line source? Do I spend millions on R&D and do my own analysis? Or just few thousands going to Las Vegas and gathering my own data? Or do I need to wait for a Newspaper that actually has fact-checking?

> Even more reputable sites like Snopes tend to draw absolutist conclusions about things which I find are certainly not absolute.

Billions of citizens fact-checking every single news is not cost effective. It will be good to have a minimum of quality, and then you can apply any correction to the inherent bias of that medium. There is a difference between someway biased information and bullshit.

Re:Google admits citing 4chan to spread fake Vegas shooter news by synicalx on Friday October 06, 2017 @01:47AM (#15414699)
You're misrepresenting what the person you're replying to said.

You can check facts the exact same way we've been doing for many years - find corroborating sources, view first hand evidence (and no, you don't need to do this in person), look for analysis from trusted sources etc etc.

Even if a newspaper claims to do fact-checking or is somehow legally obligated to do fact-checking, that's absolutely no guarantee that it's facts are accurate or free from bias.

Re:Google admits citing 4chan to spread fake Vegas shooter news by BFatts on Thursday October 05, 2017 @03:25PM (#15411891)
Look for correlations that come from disparate sources. That's how I verify stuff that happens in Sweden.
Re:Google admits citing 4chan to spread fake Vegas shooter news by ng12 on Thursday October 05, 2017 @03:24PM (#15411881)
Erhm, you click on the link? Every page on 4chan contains the following disclaimer at the top: "The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact".

If you want real fake news, Google any semi-obscure health issue. You'll be lucky to find one or two .gov's among sketchy sites peddling homeopoathic cures.

Re:Google admits citing 4chan to spread fake Vegas shooter news by rightos on Thursday October 05, 2017 @03:27PM (#15411916)
> "The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact".

I believe that's only on /b/.

Re:Google admits citing 4chan to spread fake Vegas shooter news by remlov on Thursday October 05, 2017 @03:15PM (#15411816)
Snopes most definitely is NOT one of the more reputable fact-checking sites FYI.
Re:Google admits citing 4chan to spread fake Vegas shooter news by pwinnski on Thursday October 05, 2017 @03:22PM (#15411864)
On any issue not directly related to the divorce of the founders, it absolutely is.
Re:Google admits citing 4chan to spread fake Vegas shooter news by astura on Thursday October 05, 2017 @04:17PM (#15412266)
There's been two stories on Snopes that haven't been able to be verified by anyone else online. They ignore many, many inquiries on the matter.

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/9423/did-charli...

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/2094/is-a-write...

Re:Google admits citing 4chan to spread fake Vegas shooter news by KekDemaga on Thursday October 05, 2017 @02:51PM (#15411640)
> I live in Sweden. How do I fact check what happens in a neighborhood in the USA?

I question the utility of you having any opinion on US politics, especially at the local level. You are certainly entitled to one but I don't know what it gets you without a vote.

Re:Google admits citing 4chan to spread fake Vegas shooter news by eterm on Thursday October 05, 2017 @02:59PM (#15411703)
Well you've assumed they don't have a vote. US citizens are entitled to a vote while living abroad.

https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/abroad/legal-m...

Re:Google admits citing 4chan to spread fake Vegas shooter news by astura on Thursday October 05, 2017 @02:57PM (#15411687)
Did we read the same comment? Being interested in world events and/or the results of clinical trials conducted overseas is in no way "having [an] opinion on US politics."

(Not to mention that a Swede can have a very legitimate, personal, vested interest in what's going on in the US, maybe the GP had family vacationing in Vegas. - I had family vacationing in France during the Paris bombings, my mother-in-law called me up frantically that day.)

Re:Google admits citing 4chan to spread fake Vegas shooter news by KekDemaga on Thursday October 05, 2017 @03:13PM (#15411802)
How is anyone sure of the results of a clinical trial, and how would proximity increase the level of certainty? In regards to world politics when could you ever be certain a report is accurate? Didn't you always have to use critical thinking?
Re:Google admits citing 4chan to spread fake Vegas shooter news by threeseed on Thursday October 05, 2017 @03:11PM (#15411785)
Maybe I am moving to the town in question.

Maybe I have friends and family there.

Maybe I used to live and work there.

Maybe I have a long distance relationship with someone there.

There are millions of reasons why someone would be interesting in knowing what is happening in a place other than which they current live.