The jailing of Hong Kong’s young pro-democracy leaders

Re:The jailing of Hong Kong’s young pro-democracy leaders by barry-cotter on Thursday October 05, 2017 @01:23PM (#15410852)

You’re right, the Turks invaded before the Greeks managed to do so. I suppose the U.K. might have been the closest to sincere of the signatories to the Treaty of Guarantee. Let it be noted that the Turkish invasion was a response to a Greek government backed coup of the Cypriot government.

Fuck nuance. Never give up your nukes and never trust anyone for your vital interests.

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Re:The jailing of Hong Kong’s young pro-democracy leaders by vetinari on Friday October 06, 2017 @06:45AM (#15415741)

See? Even Cyprus has nuance :)

The nukes in Ukraine were not Ukrainian - they were Soviet. Ukraine had no knowledge and resources to maintain them in usable state, they would simply expire anyway. So at least someone made a quick buck on that. This episode actually sums up behaviour of Ukraine's politicians in their 25 years of existence - whatever can be sold, will be sold, consequences for your co-citizens be damned. Ukraine as a state has no interests, vital or not - only politicians have.

On the other hand, do you wonder why North Korea wants nukes?

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Re:The jailing of Hong Kong’s young pro-democracy leaders by barry-cotter on Friday October 06, 2017 @08:10AM (#15416129)

I don’t know whether Ukraine or Kazakhstan was the second largest of the Soviet republics but I would be very, very surprised if given their population they could not have at minimum cannibalised the Soviet nukes to build a domestic Ukrainian deterrent.

I don’t wonder why North Korea wants nukes. I know why. Iraq, Libya, Iran. Compare and contrast.

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