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Re:The Insecure Developer by Xoros on Thursday October 05, 2017 @09:57AM (#15409155)
Isn't the point of an internship to continue your formation ? How comes companies making the same tests as for recruiting for real jobs ?

"Hi, we are not going to pay you, or not very much, but please be at the same level as senior that are already working for us"

I had interns back in the day I had an office (and not working from home) and I always made them work on basic tasks under my supervision. Once I had one woman who was very good, and she worked on a website that ended in production, but most of the time the purpose was to work on internal projects that can be used even if not perfectly polished. You know, stuff you always say you're going to do some day, but you don't.

The advantages were on both sides. They learned real life cases, under my supervision, and I had the tools I didn't.

Disclaimer : I'm French so maybe my example is not relevant.

Re:The Insecure Developer by jasode on Thursday October 05, 2017 @10:15AM (#15409329)
>How comes companies making the same tests as for recruiting for real jobs ?

1) Because desirable internships have more candidate applications than available slots. E.g. Google has 40,000 students wanting an internship but only 1500 slots.[1] With that supply & demand ratio, Google can be selective via difficult coding tests.

2) Even though internships are unpaid, companies evaluate interns to potentially offer permanent employment. If so, a company like Google would want to fill those 1500 slots with "the best" rather than randomly pull from 40000 candidates.

That's how it is at the hot tech companies. Maybe other internship programs outside of tech sectors such as Peace Corps think of interns differently.

[1] https://www.fastcompany.com/1683136/how-to-actually-land-an-...

Re:The Insecure Developer by Tyr42 on Thursday October 05, 2017 @10:38AM (#15409517)
Re 2. Internships are paid. Pretty well actually.
Re:The Insecure Developer by chrismcb on Saturday October 07, 2017 @04:42AM (#15422940)
It is illegal not to pay the intern
Re:The Insecure Developer by wtflmaohnisdumb on Thursday October 05, 2017 @11:17AM (#15409852)
Internships are paid a decent amount too. More than the average American by some distance.
Re:The Insecure Developer by eof on Thursday October 05, 2017 @10:08AM (#15409267)
We give coding challenges to our intern applicants, and most fail. We give different challenges and expect different levels of competency for a senior role.

Code challenges at least have the capability of being very useful. We try and present the type of problems people will have to be solving in that position; if they struggle with it and someone else excels, they have done their job.

Re:The Insecure Developer by FLUX-YOU on Thursday October 05, 2017 @10:33AM (#15409479)
>We give coding challenges to our intern applicants, and most fail.

Cool, we can finally remove CompSci degrees from job postings.

Re:The Insecure Developer by hobofan on Thursday October 05, 2017 @11:09AM (#15409768)
Meh, let it stay there. It has always been as optional as every other "requirement" on there.
Re:The Insecure Developer by dom0 on Thursday October 05, 2017 @10:42AM (#15409539)
CS is not about programming.
Re:The Insecure Developer by FLUX-YOU on Thursday October 05, 2017 @10:44AM (#15409548)
I know, it's a wonder the degree made it on there in the first place.