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Re:The jailing of Hong Kong’s young pro-democracy leaders  by cryoshon on Thursday October 05, 2017 @09:41AM (#15409028)
>It's someone else's job to lead.

i suppose it's my western point of view that makes me view this sentiment as blisteringly immature, if that is indeed what most chinese actually think.

the stewardship of your country is always your job as a human being... even if you deny the responsibility, your country will act on your behalf, which means that you must control your leadership.

if nobody else is fit to lead, it's your job.

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Re:The jailing of Hong Kong’s young pro-democracy leaders  by paradite on Thursday October 05, 2017 @10:01AM (#15409190)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13203027

This summaries my points on the relationship between people and the government.

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Re:The jailing of Hong Kong’s young pro-democracy leaders  by yahna on Friday October 06, 2017 @04:19PM (#15420085)
Quite frankly, seems like are chugging the kool-aid.

If the government is so trustworthy and so eager to please why do they need to take political prisoners at all?

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Re:The jailing of Hong Kong’s young pro-democracy leaders  by vzcx on Thursday October 05, 2017 @11:36AM (#15410010)
This strikes me as extremely confused. Chinese society is thousands of years old and has survived dynasty after dynasty, revolution after revolution. Perhaps their personal exit from politics is more earnest accumulated wisdom than blisteringly immature sentiment.

Contrast with your statement on stewardship, duty, and responsibility. What is behind this besides sentiment?

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Re:The jailing of Hong Kong’s young pro-democracy leaders  by AnimalMuppet on Thursday October 05, 2017 @12:47PM (#15410614)
The society has survived with some level of cultural continuity. A lot of people died in those revolutions and the falling of those dynasties, though. The "wisdom" that China learned from that is "do everything possible to prevent a revolution or a change in dynasty". A better wisdom might be "make the transitions easier so that they don't have to be violent". Peaceful transitions via election are an example of this.
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