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Re:Solar power grew faster than any other fuel in 2016 by ZeroGravitas on Wednesday October 04, 2017 @09:11AM (#15400191)
The use of the word "rare" seems to be a reliable indicator that people have been exposed to anti-renewable propaganda.

Rare-earth elements are not rare.

"Despite their name, rare-earth elements are – with the exception of the radioactive promethium – relatively plentiful in Earth's crust, with cerium being the 25th most abundant element at 68 parts per million, or as abundant as copper."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare-earth_element

And, further, many batteries and renewable power sources don't even use any Rare-earths.

As to your question, there's lots going on in storage, it wouldn't suprise me if 1/5th of the stories on a renewable tech blog were about progress and breakthroughts in various types of storage.

Re:Solar power grew faster than any other fuel in 2016 by asfdsfggtfd on Wednesday October 04, 2017 @09:57AM (#15400465)
The difference is that copper tends to be concentrated into minable deposits. REE tend to be spread out. Also comparing Ce with Cu is not totally fair the HREE are also important industrially and they are much rarer than the LREE - and tend to be less well concentrated into minable deposits.
Re:Solar power grew faster than any other fuel in 2016 by Brakenshire on Wednesday October 04, 2017 @12:37PM (#15401733)
A lot of the rare-earths are produced as a by-product of other mining activities. Also, as soon as supply is seriously in constraint, recycling technology for EOL products would be developed, and as the price of sourcing from mines increased, recycling rates would tend towards 100%. Ultimately, the mining product is not being destroyed in the production of something like a battery, so it is fundamentally different, and fundamentally more sustainable than burning a fossil fuel.
Re:Solar power grew faster than any other fuel in 2016 by asfdsfggtfd on Thursday October 05, 2017 @05:14AM (#15407699)
There was a crisis around 2010 and this did not happen.

Agree that recycling is probably going to be important (as it is already with other metals).

Re:Solar power grew faster than any other fuel in 2016 by Pigo on Wednesday October 04, 2017 @09:30AM (#15400290)
This is definitely not my field of expertise, I want to hear that energy is becoming cleaner, and renewable. I guess I believe that this is the right direction, and still better than just continuing on the road we've been on. But when I see articles like this

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/batteries/c...

I can't help but wonder if we still have a ways to go. Or is this anti-renewable propaganda?

Re:Solar power grew faster than any other fuel in 2016 by ZeroGravitas on Wednesday October 04, 2017 @09:42AM (#15400373)
It is if you act like it only applies to renewables. Coal gets mined too, killing people from the very start to the very end of its lifecycle.

I note the actual headline has an iPhone icon and the text "This is where mobile technology begins".

A similar common bait-and-switch is to talk about how EVs are bad if you generate your electricity from coal. The mental gymnastics necessary to take that data and decide "Maybe we shouldn't use EVs" rather than "Maybe we shouldn't use coal" is a wonder to behold.

So, as long as you're saying, let's do the cleanest of all the options, that's cool. Because the cleanest answer is solar, wind, EVs and storage (including lithium ion) amongst other techs and any honest approach to doing the most efficient, least destructive thing is only going to help speed them on their way.

If you're bringing it up for the same reason people bring up birds being killed by wind power, or coal powered EVs generating pollution, or how global warming isn't even a real thing etc. then yeah, it's fairly well-funded propaganda you're spreading around.