Re:Switching to e-cigarettes could save 6.6M American smokers
by gnaritas on Tuesday October 03, 2017 @03:47PM
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And too much water will kill you; too much of anything is bad, the question is in what amount. However, I was unaware of the estrogen thing, very interesting, you do see that in women.
As for it being a vasoconstrictor, so is caffeine and any number of other stimulants, that itself in not inherently bad, it's simply an effect.
Re:Switching to e-cigarettes could save 6.6M American smokers
by Frondo on Tuesday October 03, 2017 @11:04PM
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Haha, I just have to comment that this is the funniest whataboutism I've ever seen:
"Nicotine is bad for you."
"What about water??"
Re:Switching to e-cigarettes could save 6.6M American smokers
by gnaritas on Wednesday October 04, 2017 @10:38AM
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That's not remotely whataboutism; whataboutism is when you're deflecting to another bad to justify something, I'm not deflecting nor justifying, I'm using reductio ad absurdum to make a point that everything is bad with enough quantity so simply calling nicotine bad because it's a vasoconstrictor-as stimulants tend to be-is not a valid argument. I suggest you learn the difference.
Re:Switching to e-cigarettes could save 6.6M American smokers
by Frondo on Wednesday October 04, 2017 @10:33PM
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I have to admit, your reply here is actually making me laugh more than your original "what about water??".
I don't know if it's intentional, but thanks for making my morning better. :)
Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor. It substantially increases the risk of Deep Vein Thrombosis, especially when combined with another chemical that produces clotting enzymes, such as estrogen. Speaking of estrogen, nicotine also antagonizes the estrogen receptor, which is pretty bad if you're a woman. Ever notice how women who have been smoking for a long time look pretty bad? It's not your imagination, it's because nicotine shuts down their bodies' ability to use estrogen (and estrogen is what causes smooth skin, curves, etc.).
Also, go look up "Green Tobacco Sickness" [0]. Too much nicotine can have all kinds of adverse effects, and since it can be absorbed by the skin, people who handle wet tobacco plants get all kinds of health problems. Oh, and too much nicotine can stop your heart. I've seen people seriously suggest it as a suicide method.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Tobacco_Sickness