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Re:EFF: Stupid patents are dragging down AI and machine lear... by dahart on Sunday October 01, 2017 @12:40PM (#15378586)
> You can argue that hacker culture had its day in the sun, and that the world should move forward.

I don't want that, I want more hacker/maker culture, not less. I also want to figure out how to fund my own hacker/maker habits, but that's a separate topic. ;)

Patents do seem to be getting more toxic, but I base that on media reporting and stories of patent trolls, and not stats on the economy or number of lawsuits. So I'm curious to know more about the health of the system from a statistical perspective.

Ultimately I don't know what the solution is, and I might change my mind, but right now I don't feel like nuking the patent system is the right answer. But I do wonder if something like disallowing patent sale or transfer would help -- a company can only have a patent if the person who did the inventing worked for them at the time. They can keep it if the inventor quits or dies, but they can't sell it. Maybe something like that would stop the shell companies?

Re:EFF: Stupid patents are dragging down AI and machine lear... by sillysaurus3 on Sunday October 01, 2017 @12:46PM (#15378614)
Well, from a game theory point of view, look at it like this: You can't meaningfully execute on patents (enforcement nor acquisition) unless you have resources. Those resources tend to come from companies that programmers work for, not individual programmers working at home.

So if you want more hacker/maker culture, your position would seem to run counter to that goal, no?

I love playing devil's advocate too, but there are situations where it's not quite so easy. If you feel that the hatred for patents is an overblown concern, I suppose it would be best for the people in this thread to post stories about how patents have materially affected their lives and their work. There are plenty.

Even lacking that, though, the core argument is that you need money to be able to do anything patent-related. Most hackers don't have these kinds of resources. And since patents can be used against them, advocating for patents leads directly to the disenfranchisement of hackers.

EDIT: One thing that makes it difficult to see the kinds of statistics you'd like to see: Chilling effects. When patents hang over us like a specter, you'll never see how many ventures are aborted before they're even started due to fears about patents.