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Re:Catalan referendum: 'Hundreds injured' in Catalan clashes by kiliancs on Sunday October 01, 2017 @09:50AM (#15377783)
Self-determination of peoples is a jus cogens law and a cardinal principle in international law. It's part of the UN's Charter and it's enshrined in many international treaties subscribed by Spain and by the European Union.

The Spanish constitution recognizes the right to self-determination inasmuch as it explicitly enshrines the international treaties that define it.

Spain has always defended that this right to self-determination is confined to colonies because it would otherwise conflict with the also very important principle of territorial integrity. However, the International Court of Justice explained in its Advisory Opinion of 22 July 2010 regarding the case of Kosovo that “the scope of the principle of territorial integrity is confined to the sphere of relations between States”. Thus, even unilateral declarations of independence do not conflict with the aforementioned principle: “general international law contains no applicable prohibition of declarations of independence“.

Re:Catalan referendum: 'Hundreds injured' in Catalan clashes by notspanishflu on Sunday October 01, 2017 @10:00AM (#15377840)
But the truth is self-determination is for nations and colonies.

In this case, the right for self-determination is for Spain, not for a part of Spain.

Re:Catalan referendum: 'Hundreds injured' in Catalan clashes by sbmassey on Sunday October 01, 2017 @10:07AM (#15377876)
I suppose the Spanish government didn't do a good enough job of convincing the Catalonian people that they are part of Spain.
Re:Catalan referendum: 'Hundreds injured' in Catalan clashes by notspanishflu on Sunday October 01, 2017 @10:27AM (#15377987)
The majority of catalans don't want independence.

The political parties promoting independence represent less citizens than the political parties that want Catalonia to be part of Spain.

Re:Catalan referendum: 'Hundreds injured' in Catalan clashes by sbmassey on Sunday October 01, 2017 @10:55AM (#15378136)
So really, the Spanish government should just have let the referendum go ahead peacefully, and thereby have had that fact publicly demonstrated.
Re:Catalan referendum: 'Hundreds injured' in Catalan clashes by throwawayknecht on Sunday October 01, 2017 @10:10AM (#15377896)
Self-determination for some, miniature Spanish flags for others!