It seems like even the local firefighters and police stepped in:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/914472762030379012

https://twitter.com/catalannews/status/914453409453023232

What a violent mess.

Watching this it's easy to see a clear path toward civil war.

If this continues, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the army step in & impose peace until such time as the situation can be resolved peacefully. I would bet good money that Spanish generals are dusting off old contingency plans as we speak.

The woman was not injured by police: she had an accident with the stairs going to vote.

There are videos with the attack to the police. At the end, there are violent people with the pacifist voters and not professional policemen too.

EDIT: Evidence asked, here it is https://youtu.be/wmLTRluQm94

EDIT 2: I was asked for source about the women and people manipulating pictures. Two sources here: https://twitter.com/arb149/status/914401352230621184/video/1 http://www.larazon.es/espana/difunden-en-twitter-imagenes-fa...

Damn. That is an insane amount of people to have smashed their heads open after falling down stairs!

Also videos like this: https://twitter.com/blancallumvidal/status/91442065475317350...

I've seen no evidence of violent people attacking police.

Edit: well that is evidence - not a huge surprise that things have now escalated when you have an armed force shutting down an election.

I am uploading it so you can see it. (Nice downvote before letting me prove my words :) )

Video evidence of other protesters being violent, excusing any and all attacks by police? You're only digging yourself deeper and don't even realize it. By the same token, just one attack by a cop on a non-violent person justified all attacks on cops. By the same token, anything any human ever did to anyone you could be rightfully punished for.

And where is the evidence the woman fell down the stairs? And how do you think "smileys" come across in the context of what seems like covering for brown shirts?

I am not excusing neither of the behaviors: both violents and not professional policemen are doing wrong. All your text is based not in what I said, but in yours interpretations of my words

I am adding references for the women issue too.

Well sorry then for reading your brief comments that way. Since my Spanish sucks I can't blame you.

But come on, we see cops doing things like jumping on people. Do their colleagues protest that? Do they go on strike until such actions are brought to court? No? Then they're all not "professional" enough in my eyes.

"Unprofessional" also applies to things like saying "hey buddy" to someone at a traffic stop instead of a more formal greeting. Why do you call the violent behavior of protesters violent, but violent and kind of sadistic behavior of police "unprofessional"? And apart from my interpretation, the bit about guilt not being transferable also stands. And it's not a minor point on the side.

> both violents and not professional policemen are doing wrong

As far as I'm concerned, that's like saying a rape victim is bad at mario cart. Police violence, any abuses of official authority but certainly such egregious ones, play in a completely different ball park. And just like the abuse of authority (and gear) don't justify attacks on cops, attacks on cops don't justify other abuses.

Thanks for pointing out that one thing was faked, I wish faking something like that should be punished like committing the act. But I remain in firm opposition to anyone who uses it to excuse anything else. If you want the waters muddled that way, accept guilt for anything anyone ever did. If you don't, don't muddle them. It's a binary choice.

So what is your point? Everybody can very well guess that there have been some violent civilian in that kind of situation. If you specifically respond to unprovoked police violence with that kind of cherry-picked information, its kind of natural your reader might think that you might think that there is a kind of justification, somehow.