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Re:Facing poverty, academics turn to sex work and sleeping i... by tpeo on Thursday September 28, 2017 @12:58PM (#15358766)
I didn't say they were. They aren't, that's the issue. A college degree overshoots the level of qualification necessary for a general skills job and comes short of the qualification necessary for a specialized position.

Also, your crosswise comparison between an experienced candidate without a degree and an inexperienced candidate with a degree only tells me that you put more weight into experience than having a degree. It really doesn't tell me much about whether a degree is a good signal, but only that it's worse than experience. Now, if you had told me that you don't consider whether a candidate has a degree at all then I'd be able to infer that they are terrible signals and carry no information at all.

Re:Facing poverty, academics turn to sex work and sleeping i... by dsr_ on Thursday September 28, 2017 @01:49PM (#15359289)
I said what I meant: they're not reliable signals.

You've got a space of time in a person's life between, presumably, graduating high school and sending you a resume. What did they do with that time?

Merely having a degree doesn't say much.

Merely not having a degree doesn't say much.

Having an honors BS in CS from CMU, MIT, Stanford, or a bunch of other schools implies academic competence and exposure to a certain range of ideas. But I don't know that they can be productive outside of that environment.

Having an ordinary BS in a STEM subject from a random college that I've never heard of means even less to me. But is it zero? No.

Holding down a job for those four years is a signal, too, and it needs evaluation. What kind of job? While living at home? Did anything progress during that time? Is it relevant to what we're trying to hire for?

Re:Facing poverty, academics turn to sex work and sleeping i... by saint_fiasco on Thursday September 28, 2017 @04:32PM (#15360477)
For most people, college education funges against job experience. It's hard to work full time while also being a college student.