Have they solved the "I want to charge my phone but also listen to music" problem yet? Or does it still require ridiculous amounts of daisy-chaining?

The Apple way to solve that is: you pay them a $159.00 wire removal fee, they will eliminate the wire part of your headphones.

https://www.apple.com/airpods/

So we pay a ton of money for good headphones. Invest in high quality audio services. Then buy a new phone, are forced to buy shitty ear pods that pipe audio via a lossy audio codec.

Or you can use wireless charging which leaves the lightning connector free.

I guess with wireless charging you can now do so.

> > Have they solved the "I want to charge my phone but also listen to music" problem yet? Or does it still require ridiculous amounts of daisy-chaining?

> I guess with wireless charging you can now do so.

Guess that settles that debate then, glad we can put that to rest going forward. (...I realise this sounds weirdly sarcastic?, but it's actually not)

"Paired with wireless earphones, you don't need a headphone jack or a charging port"

(facepalm)

Exactly, awesome right? I would love a future without ANY cables.

> And for those who have more discerning needs they ship a dongle with the phone that you can leave permanently attached to your wired headphones.

But only one at a time - charger, or your dongle connected wired headphone. At some point, that phone's going to run out of battery. My normal use case is that I go on long drives with the phone getting charged using the car charger, while the audio output being sent to the car stereo. This change breaks my workflow even with their free included accessories.

I am seeing a strange trend on HN. Whenever someone writes something even remotely critical of Apple, it's downvoted, even if it's a fact. I neither wrote an opinion here, neither something insulting to anyone, it's still downvoted. I never thought I'd have to write the term 'fanboy' on HN, but that's what looks like the case.

Yay fanboys!! :)