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Re:Microsoft Becomes Sponsor of Open Source Initiative by nailer on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @10:13AM (#15347951)
> You get the source code of those, but you may not be able to change them.

Yes you can. See https://opensource.org/osd-annotated :

> 3. Derived Works

> The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original software.

Re:Microsoft Becomes Sponsor of Open Source Initiative by pksadiq on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @10:24AM (#15348048)
>> You get the source code of those, but you may not be able to change them.

> Yes you can. See https://opensource.org/osd-annotated

Well. I have explained about that in the above comment. I'm not saying that you can't modify the source. But open source software don't require the user to be able to run the modified versions on the same device, free software do.

So the same software can be both free software and open source or open source only based on where the code is run.

Re:Microsoft Becomes Sponsor of Open Source Initiative by nailer on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @10:36AM (#15348172)
Where in The Free Software Definition https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html does it require the user to be able to run the modified versions on the same device?
Re:Microsoft Becomes Sponsor of Open Source Initiative by pksadiq on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @10:52AM (#15348356)
> Where in The Free Software Definition https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html does it require the user to be able to run the modified versions on the same device?

Quoting from the above link:

Freedom 1 includes the freedom to use your changed version in place of the original. If the program is delivered in a product designed to run someone else's modified versions but refuse to run yours — a practice known as “tivoization” or “lockdown”, or (in its practitioners' perverse terminology) as “secure boot” — freedom 1 becomes an empty pretense rather than a practical reality. These binaries are not free software even if the source code they are compiled from is free.

Re:Microsoft Becomes Sponsor of Open Source Initiative by nailer on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @12:12PM (#15349228)
Yes, you can have non-free binaries, but from that same quote: the source code to build them is still considered free.