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Re:Stop Calling it ‘Identity Theft’ by zxcmx on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @09:09AM (#15347386)
Tell me which party to the transaction you are as you make this rational decision.

Or explain that you don't understand the industry or any of the regulatory frameworks involved.

Have you ever accepted a payment?

EDIT: not sure if I misread you, probably responding to a comment in flight. Your initial position seemed to be different to what I read now. I get that "identity fraud" as an industry position is a shitty attempt at moving risk but that was not the comment I was reponding to. Sorry if that sucks.

Re:Stop Calling it ‘Identity Theft’ by beagle3 on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @09:12AM (#15347414)
The party who gets a call from collectors or who is denied credit.

If I publish your nude pictures in a newspaper, you are similarly not a party to this transaction, but you are hurt by it. This is similar.

Re:Stop Calling it ‘Identity Theft’ by zxcmx on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @09:17AM (#15347468)
I apologise but I think you have a poor understanding of the way this stuff works.

Everyone absolutely wants to extend you credit.

Re:Stop Calling it ‘Identity Theft’ by _jal on Thursday September 28, 2017 @09:45AM (#15357064)
No, you're missing the poster's point.

They're saying the problem is this:

You want to do business with company A. Company A asks company B for information about you. Company B lies to company A. Now company A won't do business with you, because company B lied about you.

Company B in this scenario is a company like Experian.