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Re:As Google Fights Fake News, Voices on the Margins Raise A... by ZeroGravitas on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @08:20AM (#15347006)
Fox news displays plenty of "fake" (by any definition) news.

They said the city of Birmingham in the UK was a place "where non-Muslims just simply don't go".

Here's a sampling of 50 pretty obvious lies:

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2015/feb/26/50-...

An aside, I've literally read a story about a guy who writes "fake news" just for cash, and one of the headlines he made up for clicks, is the exact same as something that was actually said on Fox news:

"Says Colorado food stamp recipients can use ATMs to get cash to buy marijuana."

Here's an NPR story about the fake news creator, when he mentions this:

http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/23/503...

Ironically the last bit of Fox News I actually watched was a "fact-check" segment.

In it, the first lady's claim that slaves had built the white house was "fact-checked". By which they meant they didn't actually contradict the fact (because it was true) but minimized it as much as possible, including throwing in the unsupported lie that the slaves were "well treated".

We actually have documentary evidence written by the first lady that was in the white house at the time, that the slaves she saw building the white house were in fact poorly treated.

But even if they were, why would you bring this up? Well-treated slaves are still slaves.

Re:As Google Fights Fake News, Voices on the Margins Raise A... by observation on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @04:25PM (#15351949)
Personally I think NPR is one of the worst offenders.

It's not what they say, it's what they leave out. Those soothing dulcet tones are half way to hypnosis.

I give you little credit for recognize Fox News propaganda because it's entry level manipulation. Most people who visit Huffpo know what it is. Organizations like the New York Times, NPR, The Economist and National Review have refined it to an art form.

I take the latter group more seriously because large numbers of people buy into their lines but Fox and Huffpo are what WWF is to armed conflict.

The New York Times is a Communist organization. That is not hyperbole, it is the truth. It's not well hidden if you go and look. They have always supported Communism. Likewise The Economist has always supported Fascist and other authoritarian dictatorships. Inside every friendly, well mannered, articulate moderate is an extremist trying to claw out.

Us Westerners support all manner of extraordinary adventures because for ourselves at the center of world power this is a game that doesn't involve high stakes. The voters are complicit of course, we have prospered greatly over the centuries and like our comfortable lives that don't involve thorny questions.

I don't feel bad about this, it's the same as every other civilization in history. Perhaps we ought to restrain ourselves more from saving the world if only to halt our plumbing the depths of grandiose neurosis. I think I've offended everybody now so I'll shut up.

Re:As Google Fights Fake News, Voices on the Margins Raise A... by alexryan on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @05:31PM (#15352522)
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Re:As Google Fights Fake News, Voices on the Margins Raise A... by spdustin on Thursday September 28, 2017 @03:50AM (#15355507)
And such lies are fiction. Fiction = fake.

Was I unclear?

Lies = fiction

Fiction = fake

Selective/subjectively editorialized truth = biased/misleading, but not fake

Objective unbiased truth = not fake

I'm not debating the ratios of any such types of news on any network.