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Re:Russia Threatens to Shut Facebook Over Local Data Storage... by tryingagainbro on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @03:47PM (#15341949)
There was precious little guidance given on exactly what a kosher implementation would be, so devs pms and lawyers just get together and make a good faith effort at it.

I imagine that in Russia and similar countries, lack of guidance is by design. If you don't tow the FSB line, don't pay the bribes or if someone else wants your business, you've broken the law by not implementing federal law zxy52n.

Edit: USA places a gazillion requirements for businesses (especially banks all over the world) so what Russia is doing is nothing extraordinary, on itself. They have their own FB so I doubt they'll miss much even if FB was banned tomorrow.

Re:Russia Threatens to Shut Facebook Over Local Data Storage... by trhway on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @05:43PM (#15342775)
>USA places a gazillion requirements for businesses (especially banks all over the world) so what Russia is doing is nothing extraordinary, on itself.

i really doubt that you have ever dealt with any Russian legal/compliance/etc process, be it a personal or a business issue. As i have been there and done that, i can tell you it is night and day difference between US and Russia here.

"Nothing personal, just business" - this is how it works in US, and "Nothing business, everything is personal" - this how it works everywhere in Russia.

Re:Russia Threatens to Shut Facebook Over Local Data Storage... by im3w1l on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @02:01AM (#15345254)
I am working in the US, and because of that no bank in my homecountry is willing to touch me with a 12ft pole. They will literally not allow me to have an account because FACTA is too much of a bother.
Re:Russia Threatens to Shut Facebook Over Local Data Storage... by tryingagainbro on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @07:12PM (#15343461)
"Nothing personal, just business" - this is how it works in US, and "Nothing business, everything is personal" - this how it works everywhere in Russia.

More or less that's what I said.

In Russia, no but am very familiar how Russia-like countries work. A phone call to the right person or cash solves you issues. Or you can bang your head against the wall

Re:Russia Threatens to Shut Facebook Over Local Data Storage... by dmoy on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @03:51PM (#15341970)
Well to be fair, even the US doesn't always given an abundance of guidance on everything. For a random example, up until irs notice 2014-54, it was a bit shady exactly how you could get away with roth ira backdoor from your 401k.

I lack enough info and context to say where this particular law lies.

Re:Russia Threatens to Shut Facebook Over Local Data Storage... by tryingagainbro on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @03:57PM (#15342021)
True, but the idea is that in USA eventually you can go to an independent court and sort it out. or the agency will explain it more--something that applies to everyone.
Re:Russia Threatens to Shut Facebook Over Local Data Storage... by adrianratnapala on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @07:47PM (#15343665)
You say that is the idea. It is indeed an idea.

Is it the reality?

Re:Russia Threatens to Shut Facebook Over Local Data Storage... by tryingagainbro on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @08:45PM (#15343976)
large companies absolutely do take the government to court. Smaller ones, maybe, if ACLU etc help them.

But yeah, any problem can be solved in court by an non-corruptible judge. If he isn't then the appeals court is

Re:Russia Threatens to Shut Facebook Over Local Data Storage... by zdkl on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @12:23AM (#15344906)
Provided you're rich enough to bankroll the judiciary action and the adverserial shakedowns. Which would also typically mean you don't care that much about the outcome of the trial, if you've got that much cash to throw around.
Re:Russia Threatens to Shut Facebook Over Local Data Storage... by labster on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @02:14AM (#15345297)
Yes, but in the USA you don't have to be an oligarch. Even double-digit millionaires have effective access to the legal system.
Re:Russia Threatens to Shut Facebook Over Local Data Storage... by Nuzzerino on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @08:56AM (#15347284)
It didn't keep Shkreli out of trouble though.
Re:Russia Threatens to Shut Facebook Over Local Data Storage... by tryingagainbro on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @12:15PM (#15349267)
Well he did break quite a few laws and was an ass about it. Access to courts doesn't mean to ignore the laws. And he was guilty of poking the bear or something...

If he was in Russia he would have been warned to pay Igor and to stop making fun of the regime. Given his attitude, he might have been somewhere in Siberia, pulling his hair out.

Re:Russia Threatens to Shut Facebook Over Local Data Storage... by zdkl on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @12:32PM (#15349470)
And would the world be a worse place for that...