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Re:YC’s Essential Startup Advice by SkyMarshal on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @02:13PM (#15341200)
>That is definitely not Steve Blank's definition. His is: "an organization formed to search for a repeatable and scalable business model."

That's what "a company designed to grow fast" is.

>You can have a rapidly growing company with an old business model. Look at McDonald's"

McDonalds was a startup under this definition. If Ray's original plan was to take an old business model, redesign it for cars, and scale it rapidly with TV advertising, that's a startup by Steve and Paul's definition.

Re:YC’s Essential Startup Advice by wpietri on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @03:21PM (#15341709)
> That's what "a company designed to grow fast" is.

No. Most startups are designed to grow fast. But many non-startups are designed to grow fast. There is overlap in the Venn diagram, but they are not the same thing.

> If Ray's original plan

If that was Kroc's plan, you'd be right. Do you have some evidence it was?

As far as I can tell, he spotted an existing restaurant that had already found product-market fit and just scaled the operation using variants on known franchising approaches. I also haven't seen any evidence that at the time he foresaw suburbanization, white flight, and the resulting increase in value of heavy branding, trends that were nascent at the time he joined McDonalds.

I'd say it was more akin to the top-growing restaurants of today, ones I point out elsewhere in this discussion. They are fast growers, but they are scaling mild variations on well-known business models.

Re:YC’s Essential Startup Advice by slededit on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @08:15PM (#15343821)
His insight was that the model was repeatable and scalable. The assembly line kitchen they developed not only made making burgers fast but also made them incredibly consistent. Because of this he could franchise the restaurants and be assured that quality would be consistent among them despite being operated by different people. He never intended to open large numbers of his own restaurants - just enough for experimentation purposes.

To this day this is a major selling point. When travelling you can take your chances on a local place or go with what you know.

Re:YC’s Essential Startup Advice by wpietri on Friday September 29, 2017 @11:00AM (#15365872)
Sure. I think we're saying the same thing: The McDonald brothers had found product-market fit. Kroc scaled it. Ergo, Kroc's approach was not what Blank calls a startup.