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Re:The Montreal Protocol was a landmark environmental success by ars on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @12:28PM (#15340161)
You missed my point completely.

WHY is it political? It's because instead of dealing with this as an engineering problem we turned it into a human behavior issue.

It's not about the tone of the message - there should be no anti-human message at all.

The tone is irrelevant, just stop telling people to use less energy. Instead meet their need with better energy.

Re:The Montreal Protocol was a landmark environmental success by pera on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @12:53PM (#15340436)
You could see it the other way around too. Everything can be turned into an engineering problem, but sometimes that's very inefficient: for instance, instead of using trash cans for garbage disposal we could all just litter the streets (and why not, any other environment) and have robots cleaning everything everywhere 24/7...
Re:The Montreal Protocol was a landmark environmental success by guelo on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @02:25PM (#15341316)
I'm sorry but that's kind of ridiculous. You're saying that society should not decide that any human behavior is wrong, it should just figure out how to accommodate everything.