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Re:A 400-year story of progress – How America became the wor... by gerdesj on Sunday September 24, 2017 @06:34PM (#15326851)
(No idea what the article says - I've apparently reached my article limit)

How on earth can you describe a landmass as stolen or a continent as usurped?

Re:A 400-year story of progress – How America became the wor... by ratacat on Sunday September 24, 2017 @06:43PM (#15326890)
It's kind of like, I come over to your house for dinner... Murder your family members, and sell you to a slaver, then your house is mine.

Pretty straight forward.

Re:A 400-year story of progress – How America became the wor... by gerdesj on Sunday September 24, 2017 @06:59PM (#15326969)
A landmass and a continent: which bit of bloody great chunks of rock, soil, stuff etc are you having problems with?

You can do what you like but the continental plate it was performed on wont give a fuck. You could even destroy that continental plate or even the whole shebang but it will still not give a fuck.

Landmasses and continents don't give a fuck - they really don't.

Re:A 400-year story of progress – How America became the wor... by erikpukinskis on Sunday September 24, 2017 @11:42PM (#15327914)
I wouldn't break it down by landmass. I would break it down by watershed. Watersheds most definitely "give a fuck".
Re:A 400-year story of progress – How America became the wor... by pizza on Sunday September 24, 2017 @10:51PM (#15327761)
So then "property is theft" is what you're arguing?
Re:A 400-year story of progress – How America became the wor... by alex_anglin on Sunday September 24, 2017 @06:37PM (#15326868)
Killing the natives?
Re:A 400-year story of progress – How America became the wor... by gerdesj on Sunday September 24, 2017 @06:43PM (#15326889)
Who are the "natives"?

Do you stop at "first to call the area by its modern name" or do you go back through say first hominids?

Perhaps we should go back further, say "recognisable single cell organism"

Re:A 400-year story of progress – How America became the wor... by maxerickson on Sunday September 24, 2017 @08:33PM (#15327284)
Humans are likely the first hominids to occupy the Americas.

There's some speculation of earlier migrations:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/new-evidence-hu...

In any case, humans had been living here for several thousand years before Columbus arrived 500 years ago. Is it so difficult to see a distinction between millions of people with hundreds of years of history and thousands of people arriving on ships?

(Estimates of the total population vary quite a lot; millions is quite a safe claim: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_indigeno... )

Re:A 400-year story of progress – How America became the wor... by walterstucco on Sunday September 24, 2017 @08:11PM (#15327210)
The natives are those that were killed because they opposed to the plans other had for those lands were they lived for centuries

They didn't kill first

Re:A 400-year story of progress – How America became the wor... by erikpukinskis on Sunday September 24, 2017 @11:41PM (#15327910)
Was there some point to this question?