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Re:Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy (2013) by chiefalchemist on Saturday September 23, 2017 @04:51PM (#15321646)
Not to get off topic but there's a part of me that suspect the Equifax hack has the NSA (or will ultimately filter back to them). When I read Dragnet Nation a couple years ago one of the things that left an impression on me was the fact that the gov can buy "private" personal data on the open market just like anyone else can. That is, it's not spying (and a violate of right / laws) if the data is on the free market.

Obviously, DDG isn't perfect. I'm not naive. But for me there's some value in trying not to succumb to Google's desire to have us all assimilate.

Re:Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy (2013) by uabstraction on Saturday September 23, 2017 @08:01PM (#15322464)
> there's a part of me that suspect the Equifax hack has the NSA

This is ridiculous. It makes no sense why the NSA or any other members of the US Intelligence Community would cause this sort of reputational damage and nationwide outrage to a company when they could simply walk up to them with one of those fancy national security letters with a built in gag order and take the information with much less of a fuss.

Other than that, I agree. Google should buy me a god damn drink if they really want to get to know me. :)

Re:Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy (2013) by chiefalchemist on Sunday September 24, 2017 @08:34AM (#15324438)
Ridiculous? Not at all.

In the context of the history of the CIA and NSA it's standard procedure. And that's just the stuff we know about. Certainly Snowden taught us anything is possible, that they have no restraint.

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On the other hand, politely asking an outfit like Equifax for (just about) ALL their data with no real reason would be out of character. Why bother? Why go on record?

It's pretty simple. Why would they get via hack? Answer: Because they can.

Re:Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy (2013) by djsumdog on Sunday September 24, 2017 @11:11AM (#15324988)
> Snowden

Snowden, a man who worked from home in Hawaii as an NSA contractor making over $200k a year with his smoking hot girlfriend, who suddenly decided he had a moral compass, was able to download tons of classified files over VPN to his laptops and run off to meet Greenwald et. al. to divulge all this information, then flee to Russia where he sends out anti-Russian tweets.

Meanwhile, nothing has happened. The NSA is still spying. PRISM seems to be something everyone has forgotten about (did it even exist? Most companies denied it). His evidence were all rededicated power point slides.

Question the narratives that are given to you.

Re:Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy (2013) by enraged_camel on Sunday September 24, 2017 @02:54PM (#15325942)
What does Snowden's girlfriend have anything to do with... well, anything?
Re:Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy (2013) by mancerayder on Sunday September 24, 2017 @09:41PM (#15327527)
I'm not sure what the poster was getting at - are security contractors with smoking hot girlfriends making 200k a year less credible such that we should explore conspiracy theories?

If so, poor security contractors (and their apparently less appealing girlfriends) with our cynical assumptions.

Re:Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy (2013) by ric2b on Tuesday October 03, 2017 @06:28AM (#15391397)
Probably just salty that Snowden gets to have a hot girlfriend and also be a hero.
Re:Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy (2013) by dx034 on Sunday September 24, 2017 @06:32AM (#15324196)
The accessed data at Equifax are SSNs, DOB and address. Why should the state hack a company to access data they already have? After all, SSN is state-issued and addresses at Equifax will be known to at least one agency (probably IRS).
Re:Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy (2013) by chiefalchemist on Sunday September 24, 2017 @08:37AM (#15324457)
That's a good question. My reply would be I'm not sure the intelligence community / legal profession can collect and hoard such things without legal approval.

Certainly Equifax has other data. Maybe they didn't get what they wanted? Maybe Equifax isn't being transparent? Maybe they don't know?

Re:Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy (2013) by tskaiser on Sunday September 24, 2017 @09:28AM (#15324614)
That's a lot of maybes to support an already unlikely scenario.
Re:Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy (2013) by chiefalchemist on Monday September 25, 2017 @05:02PM (#15334112)
Unlikely? Because in the history of the NSA or CIA there has never been an "No way??!! They did what???"

What do you think the NSA is doing with all that computing (and storage) power? Processing cat photos? :)

Re:Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy (2013) by albinofrenchy on Sunday September 24, 2017 @12:48AM (#15323359)
This vaguely reminds me of the time a paranoid coworker told me not to store tax documents on the cloud because the government could get at it.
Re:Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy (2013) by chiefalchemist on Sunday September 24, 2017 @08:41AM (#15324465)
You're missing the point. That is it's possible, if not probable (per books like Dragnet Nation, Snowden, etc.) that data is being collected and you have no idea why, who, etc.

I'm not saying i think that's what happened. I'm saying there's a part of me that has good reason it it's possible it could be that. Crazy? Not more than some of things we know the intelligence community has done or tried to do.

Re:Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy (2013) by albinofrenchy on Sunday September 24, 2017 @01:07PM (#15325519)
I'm not missing the point. I'm not saying it isn't happening because it's some crazy Tom Clancy plot. I'm saying the intelligence agencies have better ways of getting that data without also giving it to a ton of other bad actors
Re:Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy (2013) by chiefalchemist on Monday September 25, 2017 @05:05PM (#15334137)
You should read Dragnet Nation. I'm not talking about bad actors. I'm talking about legit data collection and resale outfits.

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