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Re:Ask HN: Sell my startup for $14M because I can't raise $2M? by bilbobagends on Friday September 22, 2017 @08:12PM (#15317151)
First, a sale of $14M doesn't get you $14 - you'd get less than 10 - best case. Second, your after inflation return in the current environment may be quite ugly - $300K or $400K a year will not feel rich in any east or west coast city.
Re:Ask HN: Sell my startup for $14M because I can't raise $2M? by sokoloff on Friday September 22, 2017 @08:21PM (#15317201)
Disagree. $300K/yr with $10MM in the bank will absolutely feel rich.

The reason people with $300K household incomes in Boston/NYC/Silicon Valley don't feel rich is because out of that $300K, they're buying housing and saving for retirement/college/rainy day. Take that away, and $300K spendable is a fairly luxurious lifestyle.

Re:Ask HN: Sell my startup for $14M because I can't raise $2M? by bilbobagends on Saturday September 23, 2017 @12:56AM (#15318195)
I suppose it depends on what feels rich. The kinds of places you go when you are actually rich cost thousands or tens of thousands of dollars a day, and they have shops where most of the stuff costs tens or hundreds of thousands, and everyone around you is carrying, flying, driving, or sailing things that cost hundreds of thousands or millions.No one I know who makes 300K (after tax) - unless they have a net worth that is in the 10s of millions - feels rich.
Re:Ask HN: Sell my startup for $14M because I can't raise $2M? by dasil003 on Saturday September 23, 2017 @02:31AM (#15318464)
There's a huge difference between $300k/year and $300k/year with 7 figures in the bank. The latter means you can afford a down payment on decent property anywhere, which means you are actually making an investment instead of pissing everything away on rent.

If you don't feel rich at that point you need to get your head straight. Obviously there is always someone richer, but you are deep deep into the 1% of the richest country in the world and you need to be thinking about your greater life's purpose.

Re:Ask HN: Sell my startup for $14M because I can't raise $2M? by newshorts on Saturday September 23, 2017 @01:45AM (#15318351)
Disagree disagree.

Live anywhere near Silicon Valley and tell me 300-400k/yr is rich. You'd be lucky to get a nicely located condo at that income level.

Re:Ask HN: Sell my startup for $14M because I can't raise $2M? by ryandrake on Saturday September 23, 2017 @02:38AM (#15318483)
I live in the Bay Area, and $300-400k/yr is an unfathomable amount of money. Get a grip! You're talking about the top 1% of incomes in the country.
Re:Ask HN: Sell my startup for $14M because I can't raise $2M? by newshorts on Saturday September 23, 2017 @06:02AM (#15319034)
I live here too. We looked at a condo, near Mountain View two weeks ago and the mortgage would have been 10k/month.

You need a minimum of 120k, just for your house. Pre tax you’re looking at a minimum viable salary of 300k.

How is this unfathomable?

The entire row of condos sold in less than a week.

Re:Ask HN: Sell my startup for $14M because I can't raise $2M? by sokoloff on Saturday September 23, 2017 @07:03AM (#15319210)
It's not just $300K/yr of W-2 income being discussed; it's that combined with a net worth of $10MM. You could pay cash for that ~$2 million condo and still have $15K/mo to spend after tax. No need to save for retirement (that's what the $8MM is already covering) or college (break off a bit when that time comes).

If that situation feels "minimum viable" to someone, I don't think their primary problem is money-related.

Re:Ask HN: Sell my startup for $14M because I can't raise $2M? by goseeastarwar on Saturday September 23, 2017 @11:55AM (#15320273)
What a silly argument, this is the top one percentile in net worth and income. You're confusing the behavior of billionaires with what rich actually means.