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Re:Nuclear War Survival Skills (1987) [pdf] by jdietrich on Thursday September 21, 2017 @09:43PM (#15308810)
Duck and Cover was widely derided, but it would have saved countless lives in the event of a nuclear attack.

We learned from Hiroshima and Nagasaki that a very large proportion of deaths and the majority of injuries in a nuclear attack are caused by flying glass fragments and flash burns. The effects of both injuries are greatly exacerbated by the relative paucity of medical care - an injury that might be completely survivable in peacetime could prove fatal if medical care is unavailable.

People at the hypocenter would be killed instantly, but a far greater number of people at the edge of the blast radius could be protected by remarkably simple means. Covering yourself with coat or blanket could be the difference between being completely incinerated and surviving unharmed. Crouching under a desk offers remarkably good protection from falling and flying debris.

Re:Nuclear War Survival Skills (1987) [pdf] by Stratoscope on Friday September 22, 2017 @01:03AM (#15309512)
We saw a vivid example of this with the 2013 Chelyabinsk meteor.

Many people were injured when they were standing next to windows watching the spectacle, not realizing the shock wave was on its way.

> ...about 1,500 people were injured seriously enough to seek medical treatment. All of the injuries were due to indirect effects rather than the meteor itself, mainly from broken glass from windows that were blown in when the shock wave arrived, minutes after the superbolide's flash.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_meteor

Re:Nuclear War Survival Skills (1987) [pdf] by dTal on Thursday September 21, 2017 @10:36PM (#15309040)
>Covering yourself with coat or blanket could be the difference between being completely incinerated and surviving unharmed

I don't think this can be right. Surely it takes far less energy to vaporise a blanket than a whole person.

It might protect you from surface burns caused by the infrared pulse, though. And flying shards of glass.

Re:Nuclear War Survival Skills (1987) [pdf] by jdietrich on Thursday September 21, 2017 @11:44PM (#15309254)
"Incinerated" may be a slightly strong word, but "fatally injured by burns" is entirely accurate. Most of the fatal and life-altering burns suffered in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were effectively extreme sunburn. Most of the burns victims were burnt only on one side of their body - the side facing towards the blast. It doesn't take a lot of material to protect you from that flash. Many people suffered burns only to their face and hands, while the parts of their body covered by clothing was uninjured. Some people had the pattern of their clothing burned into their skin; the darker colors of the pattern acted as a photomask. Eye injuries were very common, because many people heard the bombers flying overhead and went out to look.
Re:Nuclear War Survival Skills (1987) [pdf] by dTal on Friday September 22, 2017 @09:50AM (#15312127)
I am aware of this, which is why I said it could protect you from surface burns. The parent didn't just say "incinerated" - it said "completely incinerated". I don't think there's any scenario involving "complete incineration" where a blanket will help.
Re:Nuclear War Survival Skills (1987) [pdf] by SapphireSun on Thursday September 21, 2017 @11:19PM (#15309179)
The thermal radiation pulse is very short, on the order of seconds and it may arrive faster than the air blast. If you are close enough to the blast for your blanket to be vaporized and moved away from your body that quickly, you are likely being concurrently killed by the fireball, ionizing radiation, and overpressure.
Re:Nuclear War Survival Skills (1987) [pdf] by arethuza on Friday September 22, 2017 @03:17AM (#15310036)
Something that was recommended in UK civil defence material from the Cold War was painting windows white - this sounds silly (and was often derided) but is actually a pretty good mechanism for keeping thermal radiation out of the inside of buildings.
Re:Nuclear War Survival Skills (1987) [pdf] by TheOtherHobbes on Friday September 22, 2017 @10:02AM (#15312221)
Of course the outside would still be on fire. Most of the UK has either wooden or plastic window frames.

The absolute best outcome would be lower burn rates in the outer rings of the heat zone.

But in a full exchange fallout levels would kill those people regardless, and even if fallout didn't, they'd still starve.

I've seen maps from the 1950s - before the huge warhead build-up - which showed most of the UK being reduced to desert by fallout.

In reality, in a full exchange the larger cities would be hit multiple times, so the short-term odds of survival for anyone within 10-15 miles of a large city would be essentially zero.