Re:Bootstrapping Urbit from Ethereum
by CryptoPunk on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @11:23PM
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>>finally he plays the same semantic shellgame with his words he plays with his political essays, to convince you that the horrible political views he has aren't so horrible.
I suggest you leave your ideological biases out of your assessment of Urbit the technology. We all have our political beliefs - mine are hard libertarian, yours are hard feminist/leftist - but hopefully we can put those aside when assessing technology.
Re:Bootstrapping Urbit from Ethereum
by fusiongyro on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @11:38PM
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It's interesting that you want them left out and then, as an aside, bring the parent's into it.
Are you implying that anyone who hates neoreaction is a hardcore feminist/leftist or is there context I'm missing?
Re:Bootstrapping Urbit from Ethereum
by CryptoPunk on Saturday September 23, 2017 @11:11AM
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No I'm not implying that. I'm describing the OP's political beliefs, based on his previous comments.
Re:Bootstrapping Urbit from Ethereum
by dogecoinbase on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @11:48PM
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As tptacek pointed out upthread, his hateful ideology is deeply ingrained in the structure of the technology. In fact, no technology is free of its creator's ideology! The argument that one should "put [ideological biases] aside when assessing technology" is, in the most charitable case, naive attachment to the status quo.
I suggest you read the entire comment before replying.
Re:Bootstrapping Urbit from Ethereum
by occultist_throw on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @11:25PM
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-- and finally he plays the same semantic shellgame with his words he plays with his political essays, to convince you that the horrible political views he has aren't so horrible.
I mean.. what's not to like about Nazism and eugenics?
(I wish I could attribute a sarcasm tag, but Go look up Mencius Moldbug and read for yourself.)
I think Curtis Yarvin is a master huckster and wordsmith, but near as I can tell what's good about Urbit isn't original and what's original isn't very good. The central concept is basically Java's "write once, run anywhere" concept from the 90s. Remember that? It wasn't just about applets; applets were only the beginning. With "mobile code" that could run on any device, Java was going to make existing operating systems obsolete and finally bury Microsoft.
Sound familiar?
Curtis adds sizzle to the steak by mixing in ideas Hackernews people will find appealing -- functional programming, blockchain, distributed computing -- and finally he plays the same semantic shellgame with his words he plays with his political essays, to convince you that the horrible political views he has aren't so horrible. Except this time it's to convince you that Urbit is more than a reimplementation of interesting ideas from the past, some of which failed massively.
Why? Well, the fact that he is selling "virtual real estate" in his new internet that's totally going to change everything real soon now might be a clue.