News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Where Are the Brave Military Voices Against the Forever War? by maxxxxx on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @01:12PM (#15296054)
Afghanistan actually made more sense than Iraq since the Taliban were harboring Al Qaeda. So when 9/11 happened, it made sense to go after them. Iraq never made sense on the other hand.
Re:Where Are the Brave Military Voices Against the Forever War? by megous on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @10:50PM (#15300247)
Maybe on this surface level. But the intervention was and still is a nonsensical mess. Killing and locking up/torturing people left and right, whether pro or anti-taliban. Making new enemies from potentially pro-american tribes. Empowering some tribes against others, causing grief, resentment, rebellion and instability. Helping people with retribution against old rivals. The current conflict is already longer than the Soviet-Afghan war. Already 10x more civilians died than in 9/11. Really what's the purpose? It hardly can be justice at this point. In 2001 there were 45000 taliban fighters, US killed 60000, now there are around 60000 taliban. Clearly this is not a way to get rid of taliban, if that is the goal.

I'm reading this at the moment:

https://www.amazon.com/No-Good-Men-Among-Living/dp/080509179...

Re:Where Are the Brave Military Voices Against the Forever War? by baursak on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @01:30PM (#15296227)
More sense than Iraq, but less sense than Saudi Arabia.
Re:Where Are the Brave Military Voices Against the Forever War? by mjevans on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @03:01PM (#15297107)
The sooner the rest of the world can get on to solar, wind, hydro, and modern atomic reactors (not the old dangerous kind, but properly supervised, maintained, and "waste reducing" ones that produce only a small bit of the really bad stuff) the sooner we can de-fund terrorists.
Re:Where Are the Brave Military Voices Against the Forever War? by chewz on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @11:23PM (#15300374)
Taliban and Al Qaeda had been at each other throats especially post 9/11. There has never been love lost between them. It had been personal decision of Mullah Omar to put islamic solidarity over realpolitik.

Some clever policymaking - mixing military threats with financial incentive - could result in catching most of Al Qaeda possibly Bin-Laden included and avoid 16 year war. But B-1 coming with vengeance after mountain caves looked better on TV and as propaganda spin post 9/11.

Re:Where Are the Brave Military Voices Against the Forever War? by walshemj on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @01:44PM (#15296383)
But they dropped the ball due to the obsession with Iraq and let him get away