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Re:The correlation between IQ and income by aerovistae on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @03:42PM (#15288121)
> One problem with this study is that 81% of the sample was black (much higher than the 45% among homeless Americans in general) and these tend to score lower on IQ tests, at least in the general population, however a UK sample of homeless obtained virtually identical scores on the WASI, despite being 96% white.

Uhhh....REALLY not sure what to make of this paragraph. If I'm not missing something, seems to be implying that there's a correlation between race and IQ. This is on HN?

Re:The correlation between IQ and income by poke111 on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @03:48PM (#15288160)
This is not a controversial opinion. It is a statistical fact of psychometrics.
Re:The correlation between IQ and income by aerovistae on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @03:55PM (#15288220)
I would be interested to see the results for a comparison of black and white individuals with comparable upbringings.

I have a very, very hard time believing this.

Yes, if you compare the cognitive ability of someone in a 3rd world country to that of someone in a first world country, or someone who grew up in poverty to someone who grew up comfortably, I would be unsurprised to see a difference.

I would be intrigued to be linked to any peer-reviewed study that is not colored by those factors.

Re:The correlation between IQ and income by kmmlng on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @04:00PM (#15288274)
Definitely, but the author is still right to point out that black people are overrepresented in the sample. You could argue that there is still a gap between black and white Americans in terms of education, wealth, etc., and IQ is partially influenced by environmental factors such as maternal/paternal education level (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0899900707...).
Re:The correlation between IQ and income by poke111 on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @03:58PM (#15288259)
Re:The correlation between IQ and income by aerovistae on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @04:28PM (#15288492)
Did you read your own source?

> Currently, there is no non-circumstantial evidence that these differences in test scores have a genetic component,

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> Soon, other studies appeared, contesting these conclusions and arguing instead that the Army tests had not adequately controlled for the environmental factors such as socio-economic and educational inequality between African-Americans and Whites.

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> The majority of anthropologists today consider race to be a sociopolitical phenomenon rather than a biological one,[34] a view supported by considerable genetics research.

Re:The correlation between IQ and income by poke111 on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @04:49PM (#15288678)
I didn't mean to imply that I knew the answer to your question. I meant that the IQ disparity is a statistical fact, but the cause is a hotly debated area of research without clear answers, and the Wikipedia page is a good primer on the various sides of the debate. The point is that in a study like this you may have to adjust for oversampling by race.
Re:The correlation between IQ and income by itsdrewmiller on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @03:50PM (#15288182)
I think he was trying to say it was evidence of an unrepresentative sample, which is an accurate observation. His counterpoint isn't very sensible though - why not just lead with the U.K. study?

Then it gets into this: "It’s common knowledge in psychometric circles that reading comprehension tests are statistically equivalent to IQ tests..." and that's it for justification of projecting welfare recipient IQs. Okay then. Stopped reading there.