Re:Overestimated effects of violent games (2010) [pdf]
by foldr on Saturday September 16, 2017 @11:16AM
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I didn't say anything about classes, so I'm not sure where you're getting that from. There is, obviously, a long history of men oppressing women. Men used to own their wives and have the legal right to beat and rape them. Not every claim about one group having done something to another group rests on some kind of Marxist ideology. There are any number of uncontroversial historical statements along the lines "group X did Y to group Z" which would be assented to by people of all ideological stripes.
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Re:Overestimated effects of violent games (2010) [pdf]
by adekok on Saturday September 16, 2017 @07:52PM
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I'm saying "men oppressing women" is the same BS as "the bourgoise oppress the proletariat"
> Not every claim about one group having done something to another group rests on some kind of Marxist ideology
Of course it doesn't.
What I am saying is that I find parallels in many, many, ideologies. If the only difference between the ideologies is the names of the "bad" and "good" people, then I call the ideologies the same.
Re:Overestimated effects of violent games (2010) [pdf]
by foldr on Sunday September 17, 2017 @06:28AM
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As far as I can tell, you're saying that it's not true that men have historically oppressed women because it's not true that the bourgeoisie (note spelling) oppress the proletariat. That's clearly a non sequitur.