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Re:Parents Who Pay to Be Watched by LeifCarrotson on Friday September 15, 2017 @01:46PM (#15259135)
The passive TV can be less psychologically powerful than the interactive iPad.

Sure, kids can still sit slack-jawed staring at some cartoons. The TV producers have learned how to maintain attention with rapid cuts, bright colors, loud sounds, and all the rest extremely well. And that's some pretty scary super-stimulation.

But it's still less addictive than the iPad app that can use all the same outputs and adds interactive, Pavlovian feedback. Push button, get some meaningless numbers to increase: maybe you'll get lucky and they'll increase a lot this time! Keep trying! Check back in 30 seconds when that unlocks again! Some interaction can be educational, but there's more to the decision than the educational value, it's also somewhat about the addictive potential.

My 11-month old likes to hold a phone when he can get one. He turns it over with impressive dexterity in his little hands. He enjoys his reflection, and the weight and shape of the things. I'm sure he's observed that Mom and Dad pick up and use these things frequently, as much as we try to limit it around him. Each time he gets a phone, we take it away, and trivially redirect his attention on something else.

It's terrifying to me that in perhaps 5 years, the attention capture industry will be aided by virtual-reality devices, and my little kindergartner will need to develop the willpower to someday control his use of these future addiction machines.

(And now, I'll ironically push "reply" in hopes that I'll see my HN karma increase a few points due to this comment.)

Re:Parents Who Pay to Be Watched by corey_moncure on Friday September 15, 2017 @04:52PM (#15260670)
> The TV producers have learned

Not to detract from your point, but to reinforce it: TV producers didn't "learn" as if through trial and error, but something far more sinister. They, and commercial producers, employ actual child psychologists to study the underlying mechanisms of attention in actual children to maximize the impact of their "product".

Re:Parents Who Pay to Be Watched by cracell on Friday September 15, 2017 @02:36PM (#15259538)
Not all apps are like that.

For instance Sago Mini makes amazing apps that do not use addiction techniques to hook you. They are just fun and let your explore however you want.

https://sagomini.com/apps/

I completely agree that some apps are inappropriate for various ages though. Pretty much anything that purposely tries to addict the user should only be played by people who can handle the it. Some adults can't.

Re:Parents Who Pay to Be Watched by spraak on Friday September 15, 2017 @02:19PM (#15259398)
> (And now, I'll ironically push "reply" in hopes that I'll see my HN karma increase a few points due to this comment.)

Have my upvote! ;)

(And now, I'll push "reply" with fear that my HN karma will decrease due to a meta-comment about up/downvoting)

Re:Parents Who Pay to Be Watched by jacobush on Friday September 15, 2017 @02:17PM (#15259381)
Karma +1