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Re:Nestlé Takes Majority Stake in Blue Bottle by ams6110 on Thursday September 14, 2017 @11:10PM (#15254287)
You've got it backwards. Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness are inherent in being human. Governments can only take them away, they do not confer them.
Re:Nestlé Takes Majority Stake in Blue Bottle by Mediterraneo10 on Friday September 15, 2017 @05:59AM (#15255879)
> Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness are inherent in being human.

<Citation needed>.

The conventional Enlightenment-era arguments for natural rights, like those which inspired the American Founding Fathers, claimed that those natural rights were endowed by a Creator. Unfortunately, over the following two centuries-plus, fewer and fewer people accept the existence of a Creator that can endow such rights. Meanwhile, the study of homo sapiens as a social animal has proceeded apace, and it is clear to many – if not most – people today that “rights” are a rather arbitrary thing that human beings in groups posit for utilitarian reasons, but they have no foundation beyond that.

Re:Nestlé Takes Majority Stake in Blue Bottle by ionised on Friday September 15, 2017 @09:16AM (#15256855)
I agree that they are inherent, but it's not just governments that take them away, it's other people in general.

You could live in a totally government-free society and somebody, somewhere will eventually come along and fuck your shit up. Then you are just fighting to keep your rights, which for many might be preferable than trusting a government to do it for you.

The question is are you more likely to retain those rights under a government than without one? If so, what kind of government?