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Re:The Terrifying Power of Internet Censors by Zuider on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @02:05PM (#15240894)
That is trivially true. The first amendment forbids the government from suppressing free speech, but the moral principle of a liberty to engage in free expression exists prior to the first amendment in the same way as the right to life is prior to Title 18, U.S. Code Chapter 51.
Re:The Terrifying Power of Internet Censors by bduerst on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @03:49PM (#15241938)
Even as a moral principle, free speech isn't a blank check to express whatever you want without consequences. The founders of free speech principles even acknowledge this with the harm principle, where someone's free speech liberty can be hindered if the expressions cause harm.
Re:The Terrifying Power of Internet Censors by Zuider on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @04:22PM (#15242218)
I did not claim that free speech should completely unconstrained, and I don't see how such an inference can be drawn from my point above. My point was simply that the scope of the principle that free speech ought to be protected is not bounded by the limits of the first amendment because it is a moral principle that exists prior to codification in law.
Re:The Terrifying Power of Internet Censors by bduerst on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @10:02PM (#15244479)
You simply stated that free speech as a moral principle wasn't constrained by the law. I was just reminding you that free speech as a moral principle still has constraints, which are relevant to the discussion of expressions that historically harm others (child pornography, Nazism, etc.)