That's why many feels Apple is going backwards

And that's why many like me are not buying their new products

They're simply not a good value for money anymore

My next laptop is a Dell XPS

My phone's are Xiaomis as well as all my "smart home" gadgets

At least if they break I have better guarantees from a company that's not trying to sell me support as a religion that you have to go to the temple and/or they are much cheaper

Faceid is not worth a thousand dollars

It's a joke for rich spoiled people

I think prices have stayed pretty much the same or become lower over the years. You can get a 64GB iPhone 8 this year for $699, vs $749 for the iPhone 6 in 2014. I think the iPhone 8 is still a pretty "premium" experience, even if Apple now has a more fancy and more expensive model.

The SE uses Apple A9 CPU from the 6S.

I'm still using a 6 year old iPhone on the current OS without problems. And battery is working fine too.

You might be stretching it a bit there, but otherwise this point stands.

Admittedly, I'm upgrading this cycle, but I'm super impressed by how long this phone has lasted. I bought a Nexus 4 (9 months older phone), and it's been complete shit for the past 1.5 years.

Only real problem is the glass A 5 dollar protection fixed the problem

fixed typo: 120 dollars was really 200.

Apple ecosystem has no escape routes, either you take it all or you don't.

Anyway when the iPhone 5s came out it costed 800 euros in Europe and still costs around 250 euros on Amazon.

The iPhone's price makes no f*ing sense

I can understand rich people wanting it, I don't get why regular folks spend so much money for so little real value.