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Re:iPhone X by plandis on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:34PM (#15231238)
Is the DAC even good enough in the iPhone at that point? Even if you had a straight jack audiophile headphones are probably not getting much benefit over, say, Bose headphones are they?
Re:iPhone X by duskwuff on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @05:06PM (#15232716)
Apple's DACs are excellent. Here's an analysis of the Lightning adapter, for instance:

http://www.kenrockwell.com/apple/lightning-adapter-audio-qua...

Re:iPhone X by einrealist on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:51PM (#15231594)
The internal DAC is good enough when I am on my feet. Its more about stability and convenience than sound quality in this situation. Its inconvenient to carry an additional adapter which gets accidently disconnected more easily than a jack.

I use an external DAC (Beyerdynamic A200p) when I use my notebook or my iPhone stationary.

Edit: I use Shure SE846 as headphones.

Re:iPhone X by adrr on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @04:51PM (#15232527)
Does a DAC even matter? Would love to see blind test showing they make a difference.
Re:iPhone X by anthonybsd on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @05:17PM (#15232832)
Do headphones even matter after a certain price point? http://asa.scitation.org/doi/10.1121/1.4984044
Re:iPhone X by adrr on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @05:22PM (#15232895)
Headphones sound different. Open air ones, closed, planar etc. Don't all DACs sound the same like amplifiers(unless its a tube)?
Re:iPhone X by binaryblitz on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @05:10PM (#15232759)
Do you know what a DAC is? They "make a difference" by allowing you to analog headphones. So more so "required"...
Re:iPhone X by adrr on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @05:19PM (#15232858)
Yes thread is about quality of DAC not if a DAC is required.