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Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by mzs on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:19PM (#15230931)
This has not been well thought out for part of the world.

https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-08-13/expand-job-opportunit...

Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by ebspelman on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:38PM (#15231311)
the prevalence of surgical masks in China might also be a challenge
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by monkmartinez on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:40PM (#15231347)
Sunglasses and hats too!
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by hellofunk on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:44PM (#15231455)
No, Apple has explicitly stated that hair style, glasses, hats, etc have no impact on the face detection.
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by tetraodonpuffer on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:57PM (#15231705)
so does it mean that to unlock the phone I just have to knock you out and put some sunglasses on you?
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by hellofunk on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @04:07PM (#15231868)
How would that be any different than knocking someone out and using their finger for the Touch ID?
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by koolba on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @04:26PM (#15232174)
Well for one thing it'd be a hell of a lot more work to cut off a guy's head vs. just his thumbs (if you want to unlock again later).
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by tetraodonpuffer on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @04:12PM (#15231940)
exactly the same, which means FaceID is not that much more secure unless as part of the authentication process you have to smile on cue or something
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by ihuman on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:44PM (#15231441)
Apple has said it will work with glasses and hats
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by nicky0 on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:46PM (#15231504)
But not sunglasses.
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by bambax on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:49PM (#15231554)
What about twins? Does touch ID even work with twins?
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by AceJohnny2 on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:52PM (#15231611)
No. They even brought up Spock and Evil Goatee Spock to mention that twins defeat it.

(I say "defeat". Schiller just said the chances of a false positive were higher with twins than the 1/1,000,000 base rate [compared with his claim of 1/50,000 for TouchID])

Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by saurik on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:52PM (#15231616)
This was explicitly brought up by the presenter (though through the premise of an "evil twin" and a photo of Spock from Mirror, Mirror) and they said you should consider a password.
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by return0 on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:56PM (#15231698)
that sounds like a lot of inconvenience
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by TCM on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @04:00PM (#15231771)
I am a twin and me and my brother managed to fool windows hello. I plan on going to an Apple Store with my brother to see if FaceID can't be fooled.
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by amag on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @04:05PM (#15231843)
Oh, this is very interesting! Please keep us posted!
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by cynix on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @08:14PM (#15234297)
Twins shouldn't be a problem. Even the ghetto facial recognition implementation in the AliPay app (a Chinese PayPal clone) can tell twins apart. Surely Apple can do an even better job.
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by dschiffner on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:39PM (#15231324)
Can still use a passcode
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by elif on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:45PM (#15231463)
The passcode doesn't let you get rid of the hideous screen cut-out, which seems to be primarily for this lock.
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by M4v3R on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:50PM (#15231585)
You would still need it for the normal front facing camera (look at the Essential Phone).
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by amdavidson on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @04:09PM (#15231902)
The cut-out also has the speaker, front facing camera, and ambient light sensor, or would you go without those as well?
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by synaesthesisx on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:52PM (#15231610)
Infrared should pass through thin layers of clothing with ease.
Re:Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X by return0 on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @04:03PM (#15231822)
it's all a plot to make women remove their scarves